Proper Castle Building MMO with PvP. (Not pay-to-win)

[Kundalini]

Anyone know any decent MMORTS games out there?

Found a hidden gem last week called Dawn of Fantasy. (£1.79 on steam right now, really big discount).

Humans, Orcs and Elves as 3 playable races, Castle building MMO with PvP and many different types of units. Made by a very small team of developers so it has bugs but I guess they will iron them out, new content update coming very soon. So far been impressed for something so good made by such few people.

Don't know of any other similar games, if anyone knows any please let me know. (Don't mention Battleforge, that got shut down by EA recently.)

[Selizius]

DoF sucks.
devs arnt working at all
way too much bugs.
no players online at all
KI ? there is none, if you attack an enemys castle. KI wont move his units.
Coop? none: 1. you wont find players to play with.
2. if you do find a player, most games you will get desync error

[Sartori]

The Mighty Quest For Epic Loot- build a castle to defend your stuff from other people, stick creatures in it, traps, mazes etc
Level up your hero to raid other players' castles evading their traps and killing their creatures to nick their stuff.

Good fun and far from pay-to-win

[Kundalini]

Yeah I tried The Mighty Quest For Epic Loot. Good game but its not an MMORTS.

[RazingHel]

It's hard to find really RTS MMOs. I've tried other browser based ones such as Evony and Travian but find Stronghold Kingdoms more fun, Evony was too much about numbers and Travian you had players with hammer armies that forced you to join an alliance or get ravaged every day.

[Cheekyhalfling]

I doubt Selizius has even tried DoF, played it a while ago and there was many people online and the game has grew since then. There is a lack of game in this catagory and those in it will be pay to win.

[Langor]

Originally posted by Selizius:

DoF sucks.
devs arnt working at all
way too much bugs.
no players online at all
KI ? there is none, if you attack an enemys castle. KI wont move his units.
Coop? none: 1. you wont find players to play with.
2. if you do find a player, most games you will get desync error

Hello!

Dawn of Fantasy Dev here. If you want to troll you will have to try harder than that. I am not here to promote our game, but since there seems to be misleading information I will set the score right.

1. Devs are working on this. I have been slaving over the game for the last couple months. We have completly re-worked the game and have a big announcment coming this weekend. (If you are interested in buying our game I would wait for the announcment, just being honest)

2. Yes there have been many issues with bugs. But we will be almost 100% bug free with our next update. We put 100% manpower into fixing these bugs. Our biggest issue was having people just saying this is broken and not explaining what the problem was. Once we know what the issue is we can fix it. Just saying something along the lines of Co-Op doesnt work does not help us. It is how biggest priority to fix these bugs and will be for the remaining future.

3. He is right about the player base. We have shrunk down in numbers. But with the big announcment that is coming this weekend you will all see why our numbers are expected to grow into the thousands.

4. I am not sure what he means by KI. Does he mean AI? We have revamped the AI for sieging and scaling walls over the last couple months. Also, attack move and agressivness AI has been completly redone for this upcoming update.

5. There is co-op, and most people who still play do co-op. If you log in you will see people asking to co-op siege castles and or quests.

6. Desync errors were fixed a few months back. It is very rare to get a desync error these days and if you do it would most likely be from a player who is trying to connect to someone across the world with a bad internet connection. We have made it so if a match desyncs it resets your game back before the match in case this happens again.

For those interested:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/227180/

Teaser announcment for this upcoming one:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/227180/discussions/0/540743213098808153/

Now I am going to go back to trying Stronghold Kingdoms. Have a great day everyone.

[RazingHel]

I picked DoF up a few weeks ago, never really got into playing it though. One thing that made a negative first impression on me was while playing the tutorial you guys had the player camera doing 360s like a mofo. Seriously, would it hurt to tame that ♥♥♥♥ down? I felt motion sick after playing.

Btw, nice to see the devs being proactive. :)

[SquatSław]

Originally posted by Langor:

Originally posted by Selizius:

DoF sucks.
devs arnt working at all
way too much bugs.
no players online at all
KI ? there is none, if you attack an enemys castle. KI wont move his units.
Coop? none: 1. you wont find players to play with.
2. if you do find a player, most games you will get desync error

Hello!

Dawn of Fantasy Dev here. If you want to troll you will have to try harder than that. I am not here to promote our game, but since there seems to be misleading information I will set the score right.

1. Devs are working on this. I have been slaving over the game for the last couple months. We have completly re-worked the game and have a big announcment coming this weekend. (If you are interested in buying our game I would wait for the announcment, just being honest)

2. Yes there have been many issues with bugs. But we will be almost 100% bug free with our next update. We put 100% manpower into fixing these bugs. Our biggest issue was having people just saying this is broken and not explaining what the problem was. Once we know what the issue is we can fix it. Just saying something along the lines of Co-Op doesnt work does not help us. It is how biggest priority to fix these bugs and will be for the remaining future.

3. He is right about the player base. We have shrunk down in numbers. But with the big announcment that is coming this weekend you will all see why our numbers are expected to grow into the thousands.

4. I am not sure what he means by KI. Does he mean AI? We have revamped the AI for sieging and scaling walls over the last couple months. Also, attack move and agressivness AI has been completly redone for this upcoming update.

5. There is co-op, and most people who still play do co-op. If you log in you will see people asking to co-op siege castles and or quests.

6. Desync errors were fixed a few months back. It is very rare to get a desync error these days and if you do it would most likely be from a player who is trying to connect to someone across the world with a bad internet connection. We have made it so if a match desyncs it resets your game back before the match in case this happens again.

For those interested:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/227180/

Teaser announcment for this upcoming one:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/227180/discussions/0/540743213098808153/

Now I am going to go back to trying Stronghold Kingdoms. Have a great day everyone.

WELP time to get back to DoF since honesdtly it looked cool felt cool! Yet I did not get into it as much as I could! will try again (if and when my pc is fixed) BTW nice to see the devs... well existing... :D

[DegoMarterWarham]

these games may be still online

pay to win maybe

Dreamlords

Saga

[DegoMarterWarham]

Originally posted by Langor:

Originally posted by Selizius:

DoF sucks.
devs arnt working at all
way too much bugs.
no players online at all
KI ? there is none, if you attack an enemys castle. KI wont move his units.
Coop? none: 1. you wont find players to play with.
2. if you do find a player, most games you will get desync error

Hello!

Dawn of Fantasy Dev here. If you want to troll you will have to try harder than that. I am not here to promote our game, but since there seems to be misleading information I will set the score right.

1. Devs are working on this. I have been slaving over the game for the last couple months. We have completly re-worked the game and have a big announcment coming this weekend. (If you are interested in buying our game I would wait for the announcment, just being honest)

2. Yes there have been many issues with bugs. But we will be almost 100% bug free with our next update. We put 100% manpower into fixing these bugs. Our biggest issue was having people just saying this is broken and not explaining what the problem was. Once we know what the issue is we can fix it. Just saying something along the lines of Co-Op doesnt work does not help us. It is how biggest priority to fix these bugs and will be for the remaining future.

3. He is right about the player base. We have shrunk down in numbers. But with the big announcment that is coming this weekend you will all see why our numbers are expected to grow into the thousands.

4. I am not sure what he means by KI. Does he mean AI? We have revamped the AI for sieging and scaling walls over the last couple months. Also, attack move and agressivness AI has been completly redone for this upcoming update.

5. There is co-op, and most people who still play do co-op. If you log in you will see people asking to co-op siege castles and or quests.

6. Desync errors were fixed a few months back. It is very rare to get a desync error these days and if you do it would most likely be from a player who is trying to connect to someone across the world with a bad internet connection. We have made it so if a match desyncs it resets your game back before the match in case this happens again.

For those interested:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/227180/

Teaser announcment for this upcoming one:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/227180/discussions/0/540743213098808153/

Now I am going to go back to trying Stronghold Kingdoms. Have a great day everyone.

Are the dwarves playable as a faction, if not will they be?

[Langor]

Originally posted by DegoMarterWarham:

Are the dwarves playable as a faction, if not will they be?

Not at this time. We have made 11 new buildings and removed the in game market place that purchase these units. There is now a building to recruit the dwarven units. Though Dwarves and undead are on the table still for future expansions. The next thing we are working on are leaderboards and alliance features. I am pushing for end game content myself. I want to extend the playability of the game. But that choice isnt mine alone. We do what the community asks for.