Manifold Garden

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Cyan Apr 21, 2021 @ 12:24am
"What does it all mean?" achievement not working?
Just finally finished up the godcube-less run, which unlocked "The Game is Not Enough," and... now I'm sitting on 24/25 achievements. From the description, "What does it all mean?" should've unlocked at the same time, since it's the only one I have left. I tried restarting the game in case it checks for achievements on startup, and I tried finishing the godcube-less save file again, but no dice.

Is there something I'm missing, or is this a bug?
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Tachi Lax Apr 21, 2021 @ 2:21pm 
I have the same problem.
Blahord Apr 22, 2021 @ 8:25am 
Same Problem
Sin Apr 24, 2021 @ 2:21am 
This achievement is not unlocking for me either, i have 24/25. The last achievement i earned was the "Honey I Shrunk Myself" one. I tried closing and re-opening the game as well.
William Chyr  [developer] Apr 26, 2021 @ 8:29am 
Thanks for reporting this. We're going to investigate it.
SuperContact Apr 30, 2021 @ 7:40pm 
Same problem!
zach.fejes May 1, 2021 @ 6:37pm 
I've run into the same problem. Sitting at 24/25 and 'What Does It All Mean' for some reason isn't unlocked.
William Chyr  [developer] May 3, 2021 @ 5:26pm 
Hey all, thanks for sharing the issue. We've been looking into it the last few days and we believe we've finally resolved. This was a tricky bug to track down as the repro steps weren't consistent.

Basically, this final achievement is a "grouping" achievement - it is rewarded when all the other achievements are unlocked.

However, the Steam achievement system wasn't really designed for the case where an achievement is dependent on other achievements. The achievement system doesn't get initialized until a trophy needs to be unlocked. During the initialization step, the system sets up callbacks and gets the user stats, and sets it as "initialized". However, it isn't actually initialized until it gets the callback from Steam. Essentially, there is a small delay in the information.

So if somebody starts a Steam game and the first thing that happens is they get their last achievement, at that moment it will initialize and mark that last achievement as complete. But because the initialize callback hasn't come in yet, it hasn't received that all the other achievements are unlocked yet, so it doesn't know about them and doesn't unlock that "grouping" achievement (checking all other achievement statuses before unlocking). Next time they launch the game, it sees all the achievements are unlocked, but it isn't checking for those "group" achievements any more so it never gets unlocked.

We're adding a fix to force an early Steam Achievements initialization at the start of a game so that it's ready by the time the achievement is called. This should fix the issue for any new players moving forward.

As for people who should have unlocked it (like everyone in this thread), we'll make a grouping check at the end of the initialization process to see if there were any achievements that SHOULD have been unlocked but weren't.

We'll have this in the next update.

Cyan May 3, 2021 @ 10:38pm 
Awesome! Thanks for figuring this out so quickly. :)
William Chyr  [developer] May 6, 2021 @ 12:27pm 
Hey all, we've added a fix for this issue. It is currently in the beta branch of the game.

To access the beta branch, in your Steam library, right click Manifold Garden, go to "Properties", and then click "Betas" tab.

Select the branch "beta - Private beta". No access code is necessary.

This should be version 1.1.0.15569 (you'll see the build number in the start screen of the game when it starts up).

It sounds like all of you have 24/25 achievements, so the "What Does it All Mean" achievement should just unlock when you start up.

We've tested this on our end and have verified it works. To get more data points, can y'all try this out and let me know if it fixes the issue for you? Once we have confirmation from a few of you, we will migrate the build over to the main public branch.

Thank again for your help!
Last edited by William Chyr; May 6, 2021 @ 12:28pm
Cyan May 6, 2021 @ 3:49pm 
Yep, worked for me!
paddy38 May 7, 2021 @ 8:20am 
:steamthumbsup:
It worked for me too. Thank you for this fix and for creating this absolute wonder of a game :)
William Chyr  [developer] May 7, 2021 @ 11:50am 
Thanks for the responses all! Glad to hear the fix worked. We'll push it to the main branch next week after some more stability testing.
SuperContact May 8, 2021 @ 7:03pm 
It didn't work the first time I boot up the game after switching to the beta branch. But after closing it and opening it again it worked.
Tachi Lax May 9, 2021 @ 5:59pm 
Also chiming in (although late) to say the patch in beta worked for me.

Got the achievement on the title screen.
Thanks for the fix ! It's always nice to see game makers interact with the community :)
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