So they still havent balanced the drunken fist... Great

[callmeAl]

Devs are useless at testing apparently. Drunken fist is just a unpredictable spam fest that stunlocks enemies until they die. Its been that way from the start, and even after this long, devs havent changed it... Looks like its going to stay as the most game-breakingest thing forever

[Raider]

As someone with 13 hours who uses windfall... its really not that hard. Sure, stagger spam is harder to counter than regular spam, but its not impossible, not even close.

[FeelingFuzzied]

havent had issue beating stagger yet

[Cradicias]

...What? Unpredictable? It's exactly as predictable as any other fighting style. If anything, I have an easier time fighting people who use drunken boxing because their only hard hitting attacks have a SUPER obvious and outlandish windup.

[callmeAl]

Originally posted by Raiiderr (AFK weekdays):

As someone with 13 hours who uses windfall... its really not that hard. Sure, stagger spam is harder to counter than regular spam, but its not impossible, not even close.

Compared to the other schools where its actually balanced and each one has advantages/drawbacks, this one has 0. All you can do to counter it is have inhuman reflexes and not get hit once. it uses very little stamina, does medium damage, and can be chained almost indefinitly. Not to mention that its inherent moveset is the hardest to beat, with moves that just ignore all other hits

[callmeAl]

Originally posted by Crade:

...What? Unpredictable? It's exactly as predictable as any other fighting style. If anything, I have an easier time fighting people who use drunken boxing because their only hard hitting attacks have a SUPER obvious and outlandish windup.

anyone who uses the heavy attacks are stupid, im talking about how the base 2 attacks can be chained forever to stunlock and dispatch any level of enemy

[Raider]

Originally posted by acnx1:

Originally posted by Raiiderr (AFK weekdays):

As someone with 13 hours who uses windfall... its really not that hard. Sure, stagger spam is harder to counter than regular spam, but its not impossible, not even close.

Compared to the other schools where its actually balanced and each one has advantages/drawbacks, this one has 0. All you can do to counter it is have inhuman reflexes and not get hit once. it uses very little stamina, does medium damage, and can be chained almost indefinitly. Not to mention that its inherent moveset is the hardest to beat, with moves that just ignore all other hits

Okay but its not like theyre using randomly generated moves. Its made up of the same moves over and over again (aka a combo). Learn the combo, counter it. If i can do it at 13 hrs, you can do it at 21.

[Smug Kot]

why peopel still struggling vs default stagger deck, its awful

[callmeAl]

Originally posted by Raiiderr (AFK weekdays):

Originally posted by acnx1:

Compared to the other schools where its actually balanced and each one has advantages/drawbacks, this one has 0. All you can do to counter it is have inhuman reflexes and not get hit once. it uses very little stamina, does medium damage, and can be chained almost indefinitly. Not to mention that its inherent moveset is the hardest to beat, with moves that just ignore all other hits

Okay but its not like theyre using randomly generated moves. Its made up of the same moves over and over again (aka a combo). Learn the combo, counter it. If i can do it at 13 hrs, you can do it at 21.

thats the issue, you can block, but as soon as ONE move hits home, you are done. The game is meant to be played like a chess match, where both sides are evenly matched and they adapt to the other styles by creating their own; NOT a spammfest where 2 moves can defeat anything with ease as long as you have strong fingers

[callmeAl]

The issue isnt how it cant be countered, the issue is how it ruins the core concepts and gameplay

[Raider]

Originally posted by acnx1:

The issue isnt how it cant be countered, the issue is how it ruins the core concepts and gameplay

Again, i have to disagree. A lot of the game is learning your opponent and adjusting your playstyle to counter theirs.

[callmeAl]

Originally posted by Raiiderr (AFK weekdays):

Originally posted by acnx1:

The issue isnt how it cant be countered, the issue is how it ruins the core concepts and gameplay

Again, i have to disagree. A lot of the game is learning your opponent and adjusting your playstyle to counter theirs.

This in of itself takes skill and trial and error as you figure out which moves work best against which foe. you have to LEARN them, you have to PRACTICE them. The base moves of stagger are the exact opposite of this. 2 attacks chained together that take 0 effort to execute. As long as you have a large amount of stamina, your opponent cant do anything but block. dodging and counter attacks open you up to be hit, and again, if you are hit once there is nothing you can do, due to the small fact that you are in AN INESCAPABLE STUNLOCK

[Raider]

Originally posted by acnx1:

Originally posted by Raiiderr (AFK weekdays):

Again, i have to disagree. A lot of the game is learning your opponent and adjusting your playstyle to counter theirs.

This in of itself takes skill and trial and error as you figure out which moves work best against which foe. you have to LEARN them, you have to PRACTICE them. The base moves of stagger are the exact opposite of this. 2 attacks chained together that take 0 effort to execute. As long as you have a large amount of stamina, your opponent cant do anything but block. dodging and counter attacks open you up to be hit, and again, if you are hit once there is nothing you can do, due to the small fact that you are in AN INESCAPABLE STUNLOCK

Do you want someone to practice with? Ive been winning every single match so far 3-0, and that includes stagger plebs.

[callmeAl]

this is not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ conversation where i complain that i cannot counter some meanie online. this is a real conversation where we discuss real gamebreaking ♥♥♥♥. why can no one in this community notice the flaws with this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game?!

[Raider]

Originally posted by acnx1:

this is not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ conversation where i complain that i cannot counter some meanie online. this is a real conversation where we discuss real gamebreaking ♥♥♥♥. why can no one in this community notice the flaws with this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game?!

The game has plenty of flaws. Plenty. But stagger is not one of them.

[callmeAl]

Then you are either blind, or you use it yourself and dont want your easy wins to dissapear. Simple as that.