How can I defeat Risryn??!

[ඞ <BML> ඞ]

I have tried to defeat Risryn for 3 hours straight, but I can´t beat her.. I dont know what to do. I have a friend who really wants to play the dlc, but I can´t beat the boss. I have looked up several videos on youtube but nothing helps :( . And it feels like I have tried everything but gotten no further what so ever.

Any tips and trix would be highly appreciated :)

[Vixy]

Well one kind of "exploit" is make your deck have two long ranged heavy/stun attacks, then play on the outside of her range until she lets down her guard, use the two heavies, then back off and do it again. I did this awhile ago to farm EXP off her before they nerfed her EXP into nothingness

[Alistair Ryan]

Honestly it just takes practice, if you don't make any progress after a few tries, try changing your deck. you might have to farm for some attacks before you tackle her.

just keep at it though, the feeling when you finally beat her is amazing!

[ashencowl]

Retrying without change of tactics might hardly works in absolver, in this case, like the others said, try changing your deck from time to time on every failures.

I think you also need to be compatible with your moves, try to understand when to attack, when to retreat. In other word, it really take your skills (or rather, understanding, for the case of exploits) to beat bosses. But, i also recommend on learning more moves to widen your variety of choices before venturing deeper into the game.

Cheers!

[Cason]

you can either get better at the game and beat the good ol fashioned way or you can be lazy like me when farming bosses was good for free loot drops cus it only cost 3 thingies for a pack.
If you have a deck that loops into the khalt turn around punch that leaves you in the same stance, the one that you turn and punch from a weird angle but stance with your back towards the opponent her AI tends to bug out and let you land that punch without blocking it.

[obliviondoll]

Originally posted by Cason-san:

you can either get better at the game and beat the good ol fashioned way or you can be lazy like me when farming bosses was good for free loot drops cus it only cost 3 thingies for a pack.
If you have a deck that loops into the khalt turn around punch that leaves you in the same stance, the one that you turn and punch from a weird angle but stance with your back towards the opponent her AI tends to bug out and let you land that punch without blocking it.

AI updates with Downfall made those kinds of tactics notably less reliable than they used to be. A few tricks still work, but most don't work quite as consistently as they used to, and the AI will sometimes do unexpected things to counter you.

[R3d_Rain+]

I've found feinting the AI can go a long way. And use heal, it has lifesteal too.

[Cason]

Originally posted by obliviondoll:

Originally posted by Cason-san:

you can either get better at the game and beat the good ol fashioned way or you can be lazy like me when farming bosses was good for free loot drops cus it only cost 3 thingies for a pack.
If you have a deck that loops into the khalt turn around punch that leaves you in the same stance, the one that you turn and punch from a weird angle but stance with your back towards the opponent her AI tends to bug out and let you land that punch without blocking it.

AI updates with Downfall made those kinds of tactics notably less reliable than they used to be. A few tricks still work, but most don't work quite as consistently as they used to, and the AI will sometimes do unexpected things to counter you.

The audio is crappy but I just wanted to show you can totally cheese the boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOk-fBdIRVI&feature=youtu.be

[B@NE]

Dont wanna sound like a b**'h but if u cant beat that boss, its only one thing u can do, and that is get better at the game, learn to dodge etc, it's not rocket science.
The game is based on movment and learning the opponents rotation, that is the key to this game.

[obliviondoll]

Originally posted by Cason-san:

Originally posted by obliviondoll:

AI updates with Downfall made those kinds of tactics notably less reliable than they used to be. A few tricks still work, but most don't work quite as consistently as they used to, and the AI will sometimes do unexpected things to counter you.

The audio is crappy but I just wanted to show you can totally cheese the boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOk-fBdIRVI

You realise you're showing an almost-20-minute-long video where you repeatedly failed for 15 straight minutes before finally actually winning the fight to prove that you can cheese the boss right? And the even when you did "cheese" the boss, you kept getting interrupted out of your "cheese" and had to work to reset and regain your pressure advantage to resume it. So yes, it is possible to win with cheese strats. But the AI is nowhere near as openly and easily exploitable, and is much more likely now to throw a spanner in the works.

Just for reference, this used to be possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU11iPaohXk

(not my vid)

[Vixy]

Originally posted by obliviondoll:

Originally posted by Cason-san:

Just for reference, this used to be possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU11iPaohXk

(not my vid)

Even though she is more difficult now, I 100% agree she needed to be tweaked to prevent that from being a normal thing. I understand it is a "stratagy" (hardly), but it makes actually learning the game and having to time things correctly nearly void.

[No1Eye]

Originally posted by Cason-san:

Originally posted by obliviondoll:

AI updates with Downfall made those kinds of tactics notably less reliable than they used to be. A few tricks still work, but most don't work quite as consistently as they used to, and the AI will sometimes do unexpected things to counter you.

The audio is crappy but I just wanted to show you can totally cheese the boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOk-fBdIRVI&feature=youtu.be

the audio is very crappy.
we can barely hear you when you started the fight.

also, is the cheesing part of that boss having a losing streak for 20 minutes or so first and then bragging you can win once ?

[Cason]

Originally posted by No1Eye:

Originally posted by Cason-san:

The audio is crappy but I just wanted to show you can totally cheese the boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOk-fBdIRVI&feature=youtu.be

the audio is very crappy.
we can barely hear you when you started the fight.

also, is the cheesing part of that boss having a losing streak for 20 minutes or so first and then bragging you can win once ?

Video Description

"Jump to 15:00 for the winning fight.

I didn't edit the video at all. I forgot to actually mix the audio better before recording and I decided I was too lazy to fix it so I didn't.

I made this video to show you can still cheese the boss pretty easily. I lose a few times because I suck and haven't played in quite some time but eventually win.

Its hard for me to pinpoint the actual difficulty considering the game has gotten harder since the latest expansion as well as the rank of the fight and my character level is maxed. I still don't consider it hard because this is a fighting game and just like any other non babying game, it requires you to actually develop your skills to better perform. Not to say that easy is bad and hard is good, that's a different conversation all together. Anyways, if anyone wants a sparring partner for fighting games feel free to add me on steam @ "Cason-san", we can schedule a time to play and all that."

Originally posted by obliviondoll:

Originally posted by Cason-san:

The audio is crappy but I just wanted to show you can totally cheese the boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOk-fBdIRVI

You realise you're showing an almost-20-minute-long video where you repeatedly failed for 15 straight minutes before finally actually winning the fight to prove that you can cheese the boss right? And the even when you did "cheese" the boss, you kept getting interrupted out of your "cheese" and had to work to reset and regain your pressure advantage to resume it. So yes, it is possible to win with cheese strats. But the AI is nowhere near as openly and easily exploitable, and is much more likely now to throw a spanner in the works.

Just for reference, this used to be possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU11iPaohXk

(not my vid)

See above. Also, Yeah it took 15 minutes of relearning the game barely to beat the final boss. I made an intentially bad combat deck and still beat the boss. The video was a test to see how consistent a gimmick fight would be. I tried 2 different equipment builds to show difficulty. One was all tank the other was mid range in the tank department. I couldnt win with the tank build against the AI as you saw. The main issue, that I pointed out was I was out of practice (rusty). After applying a modicum of skill I won. I left in all the footage to show how long it took me to re learn the game and beat the boss. Complaints about the audio mean nothing to me as pointed out in the description.

It really doesnt matter all that much if the AI fights bad a bit more now or not. I barely played defensive and still beat her. When a player can barely use the skills they were supposed to develope throughout the game and beat the max level final boss with a really bad combat deck focused on getting the AI to ♥♥♥♥ its pants, then my points still stands. Lets not forget the OP said they cant beat Risryn. That more than likely means he/she is losing to a low rank version of her. Odds are she even easier to fight against.

As for getting knocked out of the infinite loop the only thing holding me back was my own input timing. As you saw in the vid (if you actually watched the fights) She would usually go the low sweep kick and I could punch her right out of it. It doesnt matter if now she might dodge and apply pressure, she still lets 8 or so hit connect before reacting. If she didnt have a bigger health pool or damage reduction she would have died much faster.

[obliviondoll]

You were getting knocked out of the "infinite" loop by her not keeping on spamming the same thing and instead parrying you or blocking the attack to get enough frame advantage to land a hit, or dodging out instead. She mixes things up enough that spamming one action constantly or a 2-hit loop isn't a free win like it used to be, you still have to take a moment to reset intermittently.

I'm not saying she's hard. I'm not saying she's not abusable. I'm saying it's way less stupid than it used to be with how easy it can be to exploit the fight.

[Cason]

Originally posted by obliviondoll:

You were getting knocked out of the "infinite" loop by her not keeping on spamming the same thing and instead parrying you or blocking the attack to get enough frame advantage to land a hit, or dodging out instead. She mixes things up enough that spamming one action constantly or a 2-hit loop isn't a free win like it used to be, you still have to take a moment to reset intermittently.

I'm not saying she's hard. I'm not saying she's not abusable. I'm saying it's way less stupid than it used to be with how easy it can be to exploit the fight.

You said the AI is nowhere near as exploitable. I spammed the same few moves all match and only lost because I didnt use defense next to at all for the set. There were plently of situations where the same few attacks were used back 4 and 5 times in a row before getting a reaction. Of course this isnt the same as no reaction but a single punch for 4 or 5 in a row is still pretty reliable.

She did spam the same attacks for the most part. Whenever I got the same side punch to land several times in a row she would only go for the low spin kick. The fact that I was able to win at all with spamming proves my point. As for being nowhere near as exploitable its still pretty close to a non match if you have any slight defensive ability. It took me 20 minutes of fumbling around to beat her. She is very still exploitable. Its slightly more of a match than before but fumbling around on a controller and beating the final boss means her AI is still poor. The literal arguement is shes "way less stupid". She had no brain before now she has a cornflake.

[obliviondoll]

Originally posted by Cason-san:

She had no brain before now she has a cornflake.

I think that's accurate xD