Stagger style doesn't make you a good player

[FiftyTifty]

Keep fighting these guys that only know how to spam stagger moves. ♥♥♥♥♥ I'm Forsaken, that ♥♥♥♥'s easy to parry after the first minute of getting killed.

[Soul]

Did you just get rekt by a stagger style?

[Malryck]

Good. Then it's not a problem for you, happy to hear it.

Now why did you make a thread about something you have no problem with ?

[FiftyTifty]

Yes. I am billowing about my glory over spammers. I want a real fight.

Just had one too. Was well good, dude knew how to absorb better than I could parry.

[Fenrir]

So i have stagger style unlocked but i prefer to play with my own. I so far never lost against someone that used the School Stagger Style. Whats your Mobility? Normal? Fast?

[FiftyTifty]

Originally posted by Fenrir:

So i have stagger style unlocked but i prefer to play with my own. I so far never lost against someone that used the School Stagger Style. Whats your Mobility? Normal? Fast?

I actually use a fairly simple style using moves that can more or less be unlocked in the first area you discover. Consists mostly of kicks, with the first combat set being three jumping kicks. Love the kicks that have you tilt at a right angle, with the leg straight out.

Mobility is 18, normal. As always, fashion trumps function.

These guys rely too heavy on the stagger style. Once you learn their pattern for the first three hits, they crumble. Yet to fight a stagger user that can parry or dodge worth a damn.

[FiftyTifty]

Here's how she looks: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1124178037

[obliviondoll]

Originally posted by mick jaggier:

Yet to fight a stagger user that can parry or dodge worth a damn.

Probably because they don't have Windfall's avoid or Forsaken's parry abilities.

You can dodge normally, but their style special is about offense, and gives them better mixup potential. Most players I've seen suck at using it, but it can be used well to keep pressure on the enemy.

[Hessian]

Originally posted by mick jaggier:

Originally posted by Fenrir:

So i have stagger style unlocked but i prefer to play with my own. I so far never lost against someone that used the School Stagger Style. Whats your Mobility? Normal? Fast?

I actually use a fairly simple style using moves that can more or less be unlocked in the first area you discover. Consists mostly of kicks, with the first combat set being three jumping kicks. Love the kicks that have you tilt at a right angle, with the leg straight out.

Mobility is 18, normal. As always, fashion trumps function.

These guys rely too heavy on the stagger style. Once you learn their pattern for the first three hits, they crumble. Yet to fight a stagger user that can parry or dodge worth a damn.

Most people using actual stagger attacks are using the pre-built deck. It's pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥. If you are losing to stagger players you might suck. Espcially since the dodge eats stamina like crazy.

[vuster]

stagger players are pretty annoying, but they are quite easy to read when they get down to it. i was using a Wind style so avoiding turned out alot more to my advantage. anyway there is more to learn from a loss then a win so just keep in mind of the patterns of stagger, if possible. take your time against it and when they overuse their stamina, thats when its wise to punish them accordingly.

[FiftyTifty]

I'm not ranting that I'm losing. I'm ranting that the fights themselves are bollocks; they always end up using the exact same lead in, get parried, then combo'd until they manage to get a hit in. Rince and repeat.

It's when the guy can give my parries a run for the money, that gets me hard.

[Ryuzaki]

how tf do you parry? i don't even know to do that yet i am undefeated by 4 fights even beat a Stagger style guy with cool gear and i'm only lvl 14. Shame the lag ruins the PvP experience, luckily i only have found 1 guy with this lag advantage so it's fine.

[obliviondoll]

Originally posted by Grifter.:

how tf do you parry? i don't even know to do that yet i am undefeated by 4 fights even beat a Stagger style guy with cool gear and i'm only lvl 14. Shame the lag ruins the PvP experience, luckily i only have found 1 guy with this lag advantage so it's fine.

Are you playing Forsaken? If not, then you parry by NOPE, or by joining a Forsaken school, equipping the style, then using the style special. Below has more info on how to use each style special:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/473690/discussions/0/2579854400737368787/

[FiftyTifty]

Originally posted by Grifter.:

how tf do you parry? i don't even know to do that yet i am undefeated by 4 fights even beat a Stagger style guy with cool gear and i'm only lvl 14. Shame the lag ruins the PvP experience, luckily i only have found 1 guy with this lag advantage so it's fine.

When you're trying to parry, block. It doesn't matter what stance the guy's in, but what matters is where the fist or leg is going to land; on your right or left. There's no point parrying to behind-left or behind-right, doesn't have any use except leaving you open to get hit. You only need to parry left or right.

How you do it, is you move the right analog stick digionally when you're about to get hit. Best to do it when blocking, so you don't soak up damage.