Is this a fuken magicka ripoff?

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-4 player co op campaign
-Element based spell creation
-Beam/projectile/spray/area spell types (from what I can see from the trailer)
-Similar level design
-Music is quite similar (okay, that isn't groundbreaking for the magic genre, but still)
-Even the ♥♥♥♥ing beam crossing mechanic is there...

Really, am I missing somethig? This isn't from arrowhead right? Soooo what the ♥♥♥♥?

Hey, if it's more games like magicka im not complaining, but holy crap, this seems as subtle as the guy sitting next to you during an exam that just changes "maybe" to "perhaps" and submits after you.

[Darkness]

No, it's not a rip-off.


It reminds a lot, but the gameplay is actually quire different, as it doesn't feature the key element of Magicka which was conjuring elements individually to cast spells.


By the way, Magicka is not property of Arrowhead, but of Paradox. Magicka 2 wasn't made by Arrowhead as well.

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Originally posted by Darkness:

By the way, Magicka is not property of Arrowhead, but of Paradox. Magicka 2 wasn't made by Arrowhead as well.

Yeah they own the copyrights, that's right, but that's as far as it goes with their involvement in the game.
If arrowhead was trying to "rip off" their "own" game I would've been more than happy lol, that's what I meant. (Also since there's a reason Magicka 2 sucked compared to the first...)

Originally posted by Darkness:

It reminds a lot, but the gameplay is actually quire different, as it doesn't feature the key element of Magicka which was conjuring elements individually to cast spells.

Well, seems about right then.

[Hunubul]

Should I list all the games with 4 player coop or different spell types? The music is not even close to being similar. Music is created by Ari Pulkkinen, the one who created all Trine soundtracks. If anything the music is like the music of Trine 3, because there is at least 1 song that was in the Trine 3 ost as well. Level design is also far from similar because in this game there is platforming, and the graphic design is more similar to Trine 1-3, because, well, it's in the same universe. Created by Trine devs in the Trine world. Weird, huh?

Magicka, while is my favorite game, wasn't the first thing to introduce any of these stuff. The controls are different (Magicka: click is movement, modifiers+click and right click are spells, and you use qwerasdf for elements, Nine Parchments: WASD is movement, click is spell, and QE is scrolling trough selection of spells, it's like a twin stick shooter where you select your weapon... Because that's exactly what it is), how enemy attacks have tells (for example landing spots of jumping enemies are highlighted), THERE IS JUMP IN THIS GAME, which leads me to a map design element that's not in Magicka games: PLATFORMING, also Nine Parchments doesn't have element based spell creation. And these are just the many things that show that these games aren't the same at all.


Of course this game took inspiration from Magicka, but it's far from being a ripoff.

[King in Yellow]

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[Hunubul]

Originally posted by King in Yellow:

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[Timeraider]

no element based spellcreation tbh

[EllaFB]

You can find more conversation about this topic from this thread.

Let me know if you have any questions. :)

[Sepherix]

It looks a lot better than a magicka ripoff. It looks like the fooken magicka 2 we were promised.

[MaximumSquid]

I felt like the coop in Magicka was lacking due to the insanely high skill ceiling of the game

This looks like a much more polished coop experience

Why are the review scores so low?

[Hunubul]

Originally posted by MaximumSquid:

I felt like the coop in Magicka was lacking due to the insanely high skill ceiling of the game

This looks like a much more polished coop experience

Why are the review scores so low?

Because multiplayer saves didn't exist back then. Now, with the new update they fixed the issues, but it takes time for reviews to follow.

[LauriFB]

You missed the large number of bugs in the inital release, that we have too! ;)

But in all seriousness, I'd say we mixed some fantasy-chaos-action with modern twin-sticks, and the result is more streamlined, in good and in an bad. It's hard to not be a "clone" in these days, as there are so many games and so few genres to fit them all.

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Will never understand why people cry about this. It's like saying every Shooter Game is a ropoff of every other Shooter Game.

[BlackjackGT]

Everyone describes every ARPG since the dawn of time as a "Diablo clone/ripoff" when a true old fogey gamer would accuse Diablo of being a ripoff of Nethack and Rogue.

If you can believe it, Starcraft 20 years ago was accused of being a "Command & Conquer" clone. Although C&C was a "ripoff" of the Dune RTS.

People just need to accept that genres don't start and end with one game.

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Originally posted by Sepherix, Glowing tsundergen:

It looks a lot better than a magicka ripoff. It looks like the fooken magicka 2 we were promised.

Yeah I need to clarify, I don't think this is a bad game at all.
In fact it seems really nice, and since magicka 2 sucked I could really consider this.