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Bos May 31, 2015 @ 8:20am
Teutonic order
what would be the Vanilla (Base game) Equal faction to The Teutonic Order? I really Enjoy there Heavy .. Well there heavy Armored Everything, I started playing Vanilla and since Im so use to Teutonic Order heavy Inf and Cav, I don't have a play style for the other factions.
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Kman May 31, 2015 @ 8:25am 
The Holy Roman Empire has Teutonic Knights. But you can't train them normally you need a chapter house (so going on a crusade will help). Also the Teutonic's pavise crossbow unit (Livonian Auxillaries?) is the same as the vanilla pavise crossbow. You also have lots of different cavlary like the Teutonic Order (Imperial Knights will be your most common cavalry unit late game). They have Gothic Knights but they suck. For infantry they have Dismounted Imperial Knights which are pretty good. Btw if you didn't know teutonics were german so they relatively same tactics in battle.
Last edited by Kman; May 31, 2015 @ 8:26am
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Bos May 31, 2015 @ 8:28am 
Originally posted by KmanBEAST:
The Holy Roman Empire has Teutonic Knights. But you can't train them normally you need a chapter house (so going on a crusade will help). Also the Teutonic's pavise crossbow unit (Livonian Auxillaries?) is the same as the vanilla pavise crossbow. You also have lots of different cavlary like the Teutonic Order (Imperial Knights will be your most common cavalry unit late game). They have Gothic Knights but they suck. For infantry they have Dismounted Imperial Knights which are pretty good. Btw if you didn't know teutonics were german so they relatively same tactics in battle.
Yes I know they where german just the Holy roman empire feels nothing like the Teutonic order.
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Kman May 31, 2015 @ 8:31am 
Yeah well they are the closest to it. You CAN install Stainless Steel if you want vanilla grand campiagn with a Teutonic Order. It's kind of hard to install but there are plenty of tutorials. Also they are still the same play style. In late game at least. I think it's because you're still in the early period you say that they are nothing like each other. Late game it is the same PLAYING STYLE but no units that are the same.
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GrandHardy May 31, 2015 @ 8:56am 
Theres the kingdoms grand campaign mod which I think merely adds the kingdoms factions to the grand campaign map
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Kman May 31, 2015 @ 8:58am 
Yeah there is that too. It's just that I don't know if he wants a mod for teutonic order in it, or wants a faction that is like them in vanilla. I already said HRE but I guess it's up to a mod to suit his wishes.
Last edited by Kman; May 31, 2015 @ 8:58am
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Dark Angel May 31, 2015 @ 9:08am 
Battle Axe mod also has an Order faction for both Baltic Campaign and also a combined Holy Orders faction for all three major orders in the Crusade options (Templars, Hospitallers and Teutonic orders combines, which is an interesting variety.

We've loaded it to Drop box, so fast to download, easy to install and great to play. Decent realistic and aggressive A/I too. Recommend.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MTWGG/discussions/9/620703493330685523/
Last edited by Dark Angel; May 31, 2015 @ 9:10am
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GrandHardy May 31, 2015 @ 9:09am 
True, but from the way I read his post he isnt after the variety of a different faction, merely wanting to play it in a grand campaign so if he's willing to mod the game slightly, that mod keeps the vanilla feel while adding the Kingdoms factions.
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Dark Angel May 31, 2015 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by crazyhardy:
True, but from the way I read his post he isnt after the variety of a different faction, merely wanting to play it in a grand campaign so if he's willing to mod the game slightly, that mod keeps the vanilla feel while adding the Kingdoms factions.

I got that too, but if you follow the string, HRE wasn't 'good enough' so the alternatives are what we are discussing.

:)
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Kman May 31, 2015 @ 9:13am 
Yeah I think SS is not what he wants. I honestly think SS and Battle Axe are good because it's still vanilla but it has the religous orders. But I think that he doesn't want a huge overhaul mod so maybe not SS.
Last edited by Kman; May 31, 2015 @ 9:02pm
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Dark Angel May 31, 2015 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by KmanBEAST:
Yeah I think SS is bot what he wants. I honestly think SS and Battle Axey are good because it's still vanilla but it has the religous orders. But I think that he doesn't want a huge overhaul mod so maybe not SS.

I find Stainless a bit disappointed. The A/I is still way to flaccid. Initially the scope of it impresses but the shine soon wears off.

Kingdoms is his best option for vanilla Holy Orders.
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Bos May 31, 2015 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Dark Angel:
Battle Axe mod also has an Order faction for both Baltic Campaign and also a combined Holy Orders faction for all three major orders in the Crusade options (Templars, Hospitallers and Teutonic orders combines, which is an interesting variety.

We've loaded it to Drop box, so fast to download, easy to install and great to play. Decent realistic and aggressive A/I too. Recommend.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MTWGG/discussions/9/620703493330685523/

Thanks I will try It out for sure.
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Bos May 31, 2015 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by KmanBEAST:
Yeah I think SS is bot what he wants. I honestly think SS and Battle Axey are good because it's still vanilla but it has the religous orders. But I think that he doesn't want a huge overhaul mod so maybe not SS.
I Have played SS I didn't really Enjoy it
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Bos May 31, 2015 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by crazyhardy:
True, but from the way I read his post he isnt after the variety of a different faction, merely wanting to play it in a grand campaign so if he's willing to mod the game slightly, that mod keeps the vanilla feel while adding the Kingdoms factions.
I am willing to Mod the game as I have already, But I was Looking for a Vanilla Faction that Feels the same as the Teutonic Order.
Last edited by Bos; May 31, 2015 @ 9:38am
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GrandHardy May 31, 2015 @ 9:41am 
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?170021-KGCM-Patch-4-2-KGCM-Patch-4-3-Download-Thread&p=3150064#post3150064
This should give you all info needed for the Kingdoms Grand Campaign mod and if I remember correctly keeps the game close to vanilla if you want to try this one. Not sure if its still as simple to install now that they've merged the launchers, just a heads up.
Last edited by GrandHardy; May 31, 2015 @ 9:43am
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Bos May 31, 2015 @ 9:45am 



Originally posted by Dark Angel:
Battle Axe mod also has an Order faction for both Baltic Campaign and also a combined Holy Orders faction for all three major orders in the Crusade options (Templars, Hospitallers and Teutonic orders combines, which is an interesting variety.

We've loaded it to Drop box, so fast to download, easy to install and great to play. Decent realistic and aggressive A/I too. Recommend.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MTWGG/discussions/9/620703493330685523/

How do I revert the Game back to Vanilla After Installing this mod?
Last edited by Bos; May 31, 2015 @ 9:45am
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