Family Tree.. No children being born.

[Mjölnir]

Started playing this again last night, but after starting numerous campaigns on different difficulties, my generals and princesses are not producing kids.

As England I marry my faction heir to Constance the French princess asap, then kill off William the conqueror after that. I have played each campaign to 40 turns plus and I have yet to have a single new family memeber be born. I do not think territory is the issue.. as I've had England, Wales and northern France with still no results.

I have even tried killing off remaining family members other than my new king and queen, as well as refusing all adoptions and proposals, but still the same result.

I have also tried the above method on a couple of Denmark campaigns, but cannot get new family members there either. Surely this must be a glitch and not something I'm doing wrong?

[Meadows]

Send your king to your capital and let him sit there for awhile. Eventually he'll get it on an start popping out heirs.

[Voss]

The way family trees work in Medieval 2 is your generals/family members do not produce children until all of your generals are married. Also each general can only have 4 children. So if your faction leader is married and has 4 children, he can't have anymore children.

[Mjölnir]

Until ALL of my generals are married? Is there anyway to speed up that process?

[CHE]

Originally posted by Neurion:

The way family trees work in Medieval 2 is your generals/family members do not produce children until all of your generals are married. Also each general can only have 4 children. So if your faction leader is married and has 4 children, he can't have anymore children.

Really? I hadn't noticed that before. I'll see if it holds true in my future play. :D

[Meadows]

they only have children if they are in citys btw. For a long period of time. No baby making in the feild. King needs to be in capital for children I believe.

[Mjölnir]

Thanks for the info. I'll try a couple of changes and see if it makes a difference.

[Stubbs]

You have too many males in your family, so the game does not think you need anymore... Too keep making princes and princesses, you must swear off all marriages and adoptions.. get your princess above 6 charm to give +birth rate and marry them too their nephews, to keep the blood lines pure. If it's offering you an adoption every turn, this means you should be having lots of babies.. and boys too!

[Stubbs]

Originally posted by Neurion:

Also each general can only have 4 children. .

I've had Kings with 5 and 6 in one game.. It's all about genetics... a Max Charm princess "Queen of Influence" gives a +3 birth rate instead of the 8-9 Charm Princess. Use Constance to buy lands and treaties right off the bat for france, get her to 10, then force her to marry her 16 yr old nephew.. Keeps the blood lines pure, and keep them in the city.

[Stubbs]

To get a charm 9 and 10.. you have to watch your princesses like a hawk.. every turn, if they get a negative trait, reload to the last save, and try again... think of it like being a very watchful parent. once she get's past 8 charm, she is immune to secret loves.

[Mjölnir]

Originally posted by Stubbs:

You have too many males in your family, so the game does not think you need anymore... Too keep making princes and princesses, you must swear off all marriages and adoptions.. get your princess above 6 charm to give +birth rate and marry them too their nephews, to keep the blood lines pure. If it's offering you an adoption every turn, this means you should be having lots of babies.. and boys too!

Started a new Denmark campaign last night.. succeeded in getting 2 boys and one girl from the marriage between my heir and daughter of william the conqueror. When the first son come of age and became my new heir however.. I could not get either of his aunt princesses to marry him.. just his younger brother..

[dwringer]

Aaand this is why they took the Family Tree out of the sequels ;p

[easytarget]

And you know this because, oh that's right, you don't actually know this you're just saying it to sound smart.

[CHE]

Originally posted by Stubbs:

You have too many males in your family, so the game does not think you need anymore... Too keep making princes and princesses, you must swear off all marriages and adoptions.. get your princess above 6 charm to give +birth rate and marry them too their nephews, to keep the blood lines pure. If it's offering you an adoption every turn, this means you should be having lots of babies.. and boys too!

Originally posted by Stubbs:

Originally posted by Neurion:

Also each general can only have 4 children. .

I've had Kings with 5 and 6 in one game.. It's all about genetics... a Max Charm princess "Queen of Influence" gives a +3 birth rate instead of the 8-9 Charm Princess. Use Constance to buy lands and treaties right off the bat for france, get her to 10, then force her to marry her 16 yr old nephew.. Keeps the blood lines pure, and keep them in the city.

Inbreeding? Disgusting! Pure "blood-lines"? Why bother? The effects will be deformities and health problems.

[CHE]

Originally posted by Stubbs:

To get a charm 9 and 10.. you have to watch your princesses like a hawk.. every turn, if they get a negative trait, reload to the last save, and try again... think of it like being a very watchful parent. once she get's past 8 charm, she is immune to secret loves.

You don't have cheat (e.g. you don't have to reload) in order to achieve such things. Just use the game mechanics:

http://totalwar.honga.net/retinue.php?v=m2tw&f=scotland&c=princess
http://totalwar.honga.net/traits.php?v=m2tw&f=scotland&c=princess

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GEzyGJ-kgA4J:www.gamefaqs.com/pc/931592-medieval-ii-total-war/faqs/50116+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

[FlatCheeks]

try getting captains to become family members by being man of honor u have to win fights