Does anyone know which files I need to edit to increase the number of artillery in each unit?

[Nova_Satus]

Hi, I would like to know which file/s I need to edit in order to for example change the number of artillery pieces from 2 to 4 and what the maximum I can change it to is (I mean if I can have 8 pieces of artillery per unit then that would free up a lot of army unit space), thanks in advance for any help.

[Gigantus]

Find your artillery unit in the data\export_descr_units file
go to the 'soldier' line
the second number is the number of pieces (first is soldiers)

[Nova_Satus]

thanks a lot Gigantus do you know what the maximum amount possible is?

[Red Spot]

I hope you realize the AI gets the same. :evil:

[Jambie Lionheart]

Oh man, that might actually make the AI somewhat dangerous :O 16 units of 8 piece artillery LOL!!!! That many mortars would just annihilate everything. Will that also change the amount of ammo they have though or will they just go throguh what they already have 4 times faster?

[Red Spot]

Can can also change the ammo they have.

[Gigantus]

amount of ammo of artillery: stat_sec line (and possibly stat_ter), the second number after the artillery name

[Nova_Satus]

Thanks again Gigantus ur awesome. yes red spot i do know it gives it to the ai but im also wondering how to make the ai use less art in their armies, I also am curious how much I can increase the number of troops in units. I mean it would be interesting to see 500 man units running around, I would of course make units very costly to offset the numbers. I have a feeling that you can only increase unit sizes so far, possibly only to 240 or something.

[Red Spot]

There is a hard limit. Not sure what exactly, but ~240 feels about right.

[Nova_Satus]

I played around with it and the hard limit is 250. its a lot more fun now haha, thanks for the help

[Jambie Lionheart]

That's two hundred and fifty artillery pieces for each artillery unit? Can they even have that many men in the units? They need three per piece right? So that's... 750 men in a single unit O.o I love this thread, I'm going to experiment the crap out of it on my next new campaign >: ]

[Nova_Satus]

haha no P.B I meant a unit can only have 250 men maximum. in regards to number of artillery pieces, I tried to have 8 in a unit and tested it in battle etc, straight up the game loaded slower than usual which wasnt a good sign and then at the end of the battle when it was loading to the campaign map it crashed so I put the number to 6 pieces for balista's, 4 for catapult's and trebuchet's same for cannons except I made mortar and rebuilt units have 6 pices as well and I also changed all militia units to have 250 men per unit excluding cavalry militia which have 102 like every other cavalry unit in the game, I made all spearmen and pike units have 250 men, heavy infantry have 152 men now and missile units have 200 men. I find it a lot more fun.

[Gigantus]

250 is the actual top soldier number (entry in EDU is a fraction of it because of multiplier). Artillery pieces should be less, but not sure how many.

Edit: ninja'ed

[Jambie Lionheart]

Originally posted by Nova Satus.:

haha no P.B I meant a unit can only have 250 men maximum. in regards to number of artillery pieces, I tried to have 8 in a unit and tested it in battle etc, straight up the game loaded slower than usual which wasnt a good sign and then at the end of the battle when it was loading to the campaign map it crashed so I put the number to 6 pieces for balista's, 4 for catapult's and trebuchet's same for cannons except I made mortar and rebuilt units have 6 pices as well and I also changed all militia units to have 250 men per unit excluding cavalry militia which have 102 like every other cavalry unit in the game, I made all spearmen and pike units have 250 men, heavy infantry have 152 men now and missile units have 200 men. I find it a lot more fun.

Oh that's pretty hardcore :O maybe it'll load better on different machines. Making artillery units have exactly enough men to man their weapons might be a pretty good way to challange yourself. because you'd have to defend them twice as good in battle or risk losing most of the usable artillery. I shalt play with that >: ]

Edit: Odd, now that I'm looking for them, I can't find any of those files in Medieval II's steam directory. Is there another place they are stored instead?

[Nova_Satus]

you cant find them because you probably havent unpacked the files yet, find the tools file in medieval 2 folder then click the unpacker file then doable click the one that says unpacker and then type y into the window when it pops up, it just asks if you are sure u want to unpack the files etc. then wait till its done. once its done you should see all the files in the data folder. DM me if you have any issues, i will be able to help you.

[Nova_Satus]

also dont forget to ALWAYS make back up files of any file you want to edit, I put mine in a seperate folder on my actual desktop so i always knew where they were.

also when you change the number of men in a unit remember that the number is based off the 'small' unit scale so for example when you change the number to 80 men it equates to 200 men when you game is set to the largest unit size in game. so 40 equals 100, 20 equals 50, 10 equals 25, but the maximum you can do is 250 so you can only change it to a max of 100 because that equals 250 which is the hard coded maximum, if you go any higher than that the game refuses to start.