Everyone Hates Me

[euriska_28]

Has anyone noticed that no matter what you do that every faction hates you? Even my allies attack me.

I discovered online that there is a glitch in the data files for MTW2. The game thinks that every time you 'occupy' a settlement that you are 'razing' the settlement, and so you get wide spread diplomatic penalties as if you were razing the places you capture. In the MTW2 data file it states the word 'raze'. Which is funny because razing isn't an option in MTW2. It's like carryover from RTW or something.

Anyways, there is a way to shut this off so the diplomatic effects of occupation, sacking and exterminating are accurate. The game will no longer think I am razing settlements when I peacefully occupy like a good chivalrous lord. I was curious if anyone has tried this data file fix. I'm not going to be able to test it for a couple days. Hope it works. The guy online said it would work.

[EnemigoDeLaMafia]

I believe there was a YouTube video with the fix.

The AI is still programmed to hate you the more you grow, and it doesn't respect diplomatic treaties (i.e: it doesn't matter if relationships are perfect.). So the best way to fix it altogether seems to be mods.

[bmnoble981]

the YouTube channel "To Nerd is to Human TNH" has a video on how to fix it.

Basically the AI treats you occupying a settlement as you razing it, so instead of your global standing going up it goes down.

[Gigantus]

My basic mod setup has that fix ** - as it's the grand campaign with a number of fixes (mostly for modding purposes) you might as well play that one instead of going through the hassle of making the main game mod compatible:

https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?352216

** version 2.1.01
Corrected descr_faction_standing when occupying a settlement penalizes reputation

[Коржик]

Originally posted by Gigantus:

My basic mod setup has that fix ** - as it's the grand campaign with a number of fixes (mostly for modding purposes) you might as well play that one instead of going through the hassle of making the main game mod compatible:

https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?352216

** version 2.1.01
Corrected descr_faction_standing when occupying a settlement penalizes reputation

Is this also a bug when the AI ​​demands money for a peace treaty? It's funny, especially when he lost all the battles, he had no army left, but he rejects the ordinary world and demands a lot of money.

[Gigantus]

Diplomacy can be utterly weird, like when you demand a region against map info and actually getting it.

My favourite clip regarding that stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=505Mg9SCZFk

[Red Spot]

Yes ...

[Preacher]

Originally posted by Red Spot:

Yes ...

no...

[Raging Twilek]

Originally posted by Коржик:

Originally posted by Gigantus:

My basic mod setup has that fix ** - as it's the grand campaign with a number of fixes (mostly for modding purposes) you might as well play that one instead of going through the hassle of making the main game mod compatible:

https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?352216

** version 2.1.01
Corrected descr_faction_standing when occupying a settlement penalizes reputation

Is this also a bug when the AI ​​demands money for a peace treaty? It's funny, especially when he lost all the battles, he had no army left, but he rejects the ordinary world and demands a lot of money.

if they are more powerful than you they usually will not ceasefire,

but if you check out some of my screen shots you can see i make the AI pay huge sums of gold for ceasefire,

heres one example
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2786073986

[Jiang Ziya]

I think there is a typo in the game script that makes your standing among other factions getting worse even if you did everything right. I forgot the mod's name, but it's a very simple typo actually.

[Gigantus]

The bug is in the descr_faction_standings file and happens when you occupy a settlement - you still get the same standing malus as when exterminating.
It's fix is included in my Bare Geomod modding setup - which is essentially the base game with numerous fixes.

https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?352216

Feel free to copy the file into any mod where that file isn't present..

[Hark]

Originally posted by Disciple.:

The AI is still programmed to hate you the more you grow

Fundamental TW concept that a lot of ppl seem to forget.

[Gigantus]

That's the 'Tall Poppy' triggers in descr_faction_standing - lovely stuff, I am always tempted to ramp it up a bit. Just because....

Works hand in hand with the 'Band Together' triggers.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Gigantus:

** version 2.1.01
Corrected descr_faction_standing when occupying a settlement penalizes reputation

Even with that bug you can still get to Immaculate reputation standing.

[Gigantus]

Possible, but just a bit more difficult then necessary, after all the biggest penalty is breaking treaties.

Being allied to two parties that go to war with each other is a bummer in that aspect - you are forced to break a major treaty and collect a big penalty. One of the reasons I do have a look at the other side's relations before allying.

[stanisko]

Kinda off topic, but still within scope of greatness of old original TW releases: -Recently i felt such sudden urgency to play the good old SHOGUN 2 again, that i reinstalled it again (my initial concern whether it runs also on new windows has shown as overkill ), so i started to bite off my time from Fridays and weekends and lied to family i have to work on a| presentation for work , and got fully into that BEAUTIFUL atmosphere of Daimyo versus Shogun Japanese times, with awesome graphics design and very entertaining, fully cool original Japanese historical phrases and voices, just awesome. But I also felt, got somewhat rusty since i suspected in first four game runs that i lost because every opponnent just hates me as well