battle statistics after end of battle: are these friendly fire casualties sustained?

[M E G A D E T H]

https://i.imgur.com/gmoHxm0.jpg

under casualties sustained the number inside the parentheses. im quite sure my archers were hitting my own troops at their backs once we were in the plaza area.

[Red Spot]

It is the number of 'wounded' men. Wounded get taken out of the fight but will return to the army after the battle.

[Gigantus]

Compare the number of soldiers killed by the other side with your actual casualties - the difference will be friendly fire.

[M E G A D E T H]

Originally posted by Red Spot:

It is the number of 'wounded' men. Wounded get taken out of the fight but will return to the army after the battle.

thanks.

Originally posted by Gigantus:

Compare the number of soldiers killed by the other side with your actual casualties - the difference will be friendly fire.

ahh.. you mean the opponents casualties inflicted total and the difference with my casualties sustained total? the extra number of casualties sustained will be friendly fire. that does make sense. thanks.

[Jambie Lionheart]

If you look at how many men the enemy killed and how many your own army killed, then compare those with how many casualties were sustained on each side. That'll tell you how much friendly fire is costing you in man power. That is the best way for me. Usualy it occurs when you've got archers firing in from the rear of your own units onto an enemy unit yours has already engaged. It's worse if you're using fire arrows and sometimes the archers will fire during the charge into your standing lines which means they're firing directly into the back of your line because that's where the enemy unit would ordinarily be when the arrows land if your own unit wasn't there already.

Chariots (I don't think those are in medieval II but maybe egypt?), elephants and siege equipment can all cause friendly fire casualties too. Direct attack units cannot as far as I know, so sword and spear cavalry and infantry cannot cause friendly fire. Basically anything with a projectile weapon and anything with a particularly large strike range (elephants).

[Red Spot]

I'm pretty sure your own cavalry can inflict FF.

[M E G A D E T H]

Originally posted by Red Spot:

I'm pretty sure your own cavalry can inflict FF.

i think only horse archers when they shoot their arrows, but not when they charge.

[Baryonyx]

At least elephants do not inflict friendly fire with their stomping. You can walk an elephant through your troops and you will hear a lot of "Aahhhhhh!" and they will fall down, but will always stand back up.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by Baryonyx:

At least elephants do not inflict friendly fire with their stomping. You can walk an elephant through your troops and you will hear a lot of "Aahhhhhh!" and they will fall down, but will always stand back up.

It depends. If just "normal" stomping, yes, your guys will get back up; but if the elephants go "berserk" then iirc they can kill your guys.

[Baryonyx]

Originally posted by Mile pro Libertate:

Originally posted by Baryonyx:

At least elephants do not inflict friendly fire with their stomping. You can walk an elephant through your troops and you will hear a lot of "Aahhhhhh!" and they will fall down, but will always stand back up.

It depends. If just "normal" stomping, yes, your guys will get back up; but if the elephants go "berserk" then iirc they can kill your guys.

That is true, yes.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by M E G A D E T H:

Originally posted by Red Spot:

I'm pretty sure your own cavalry can inflict FF.

i think only horse archers when they shoot their arrows, but not when they charge.

Yes, just like with the elephants, any friendlies knocked down or thrown up in the air by a charge will just get back up again.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Red Spot:

I'm pretty sure your own cavalry can inflict FF.

No.

The only game where cavalry inflicfs friendly casualties on charge is Empire Total War.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Originally posted by Red Spot:

I'm pretty sure your own cavalry can inflict FF.

No.

The only game where cavalry inflicfs friendly casualties on charge is Empire Total War.

ETW also has "friendly fire" stakes :D

Very annoying.

[Red Spot]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Originally posted by Red Spot:

I'm pretty sure your own cavalry can inflict FF.

No.

The only game where cavalry inflicfs friendly casualties on charge is Empire Total War.

Sure they dun kill their own men when charging a unit that is already engaged with your own melee units?

[Inardesco]

Yes. Friendly troops may be hit in the charge but they'll just stand up again whereas enemy soldiers will not stand back up.

Best way to find this out is to use elephants in skirmish and have 'm charge into an ongoing melee. You don't see the massive drop of losses you'd expect from a charge even after they've smashed aside a lot of your troops in that charge.

[M E G A D E T H]

i just tested this custom battle; im england with armored swordsman and english knights, against england's dis. chivalric knight.

charged AS against CK, even numbers in battle, charged my english knights against CK charging from the rear of my units AS. slowed the speed to 0.3 to make sure i don't miss anything. EK made contact with AS.

AS took no additional casualties and also were not knocked down, or stun locked, etc..

charging into your own units does not inflict damage nor does it knock them down as far as cavalry is concerned. i haven't tried with elephants