French pikeman armor upgrade jumping

[Ashina]

French pikeman is probably the only unit I know that can do the armor upgrade jumping, basically they start with 0 armor which is no armor, but to upgrade them to level 1 armor, you need tier 2 armor building, which is light mail.

So if armor upgrades usually gives +2 armor each upgrade, does that mean pikeman only get like +4 armor when upgraded to level 2 armor?
While pike militia can get +6 because they get level 3 armor?

If its too confusing
Pikeman starts with level 0 armor which is no armor.
Pikeman gets 2 upgrades one for level 2 armor(light mail) another for level 3 armor (heavy mail)
Pikeman literally skipped the level 1 armor(padded).

[Ashina]

All units will follow their armor level, one example is the spear militia who starts with level 0 armor, and then upgraded they will go from level 1(padded), 2(chainmail), and ends in 3(heavy mail).
Feudal knights start at level 3(heavy mail) and ends at level 4(partial plates)
Retinue longbowman start at level 2 to level 4, which makes them literally have partial plate as armor.
Italian man at art, and broken lances start at level 4 to level 5(full plate) to level 6 which is advanced plate armor.

[Ashur_Arbaces]

Arquebusiers and Musketeers also do this.

Once again it just seems it's roughly + 2 per upgrade. The only thing armour level does is making sure a unit gets the right upgrade from the right building.

Retinue longbowmen get heavy brigandine not partial plate as their final armour upgrade. Although in game it's meant to give equally as much defense.

[Ashina]

Originally posted by Ashur_Arbaces:

Arquebusiers and Musketeers also do this.

Once again it just seems it's roughly + 2 per upgrade. The only thing armour level does is making sure a unit gets the right upgrade from the right building.

Retinue longbowmen get heavy brigandine not partial plate as their final armour upgrade. Although in game it's meant to give equally as much defense.

So pike militia literally have more armor than pikeman?
Like they get the same armor(level 3 chainmail armor) but pike militia get the padded armor upgrade while the pikeman don't.

[Inardesco]

No, their starting armour is different

[Ashina]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

No, their starting armour is different

Pike Militia have 0 Armor 1 Defense 7 Attack for their Primary, and 6 Attack for their secondary
Pikeman have 0 Armor 3 Defense 9 Attack primary, adn 8 attack secondary

What's so different, other than the Fully Upgraded Pikeman wears like Late Medieval Partial Plate Armor, while Pike Militia wears Mid Medieval Partial Plate Armor

[Ashur_Arbaces]

Originally posted by Ashina:

Originally posted by Ashur_Arbaces:

Arquebusiers and Musketeers also do this.

Once again it just seems it's roughly + 2 per upgrade. The only thing armour level does is making sure a unit gets the right upgrade from the right building.

Retinue longbowmen get heavy brigandine not partial plate as their final armour upgrade. Although in game it's meant to give equally as much defense.

So pike militia literally have more armor than pikeman?
Like they get the same armor(level 3 chainmail armor) but pike militia get the padded armor upgrade while the pikeman don't.

Pike militia will have more armour in practice when fully upgraded yes.