How to beat Mongols?

[mus]

I am playing with the Turks and i conquered all the Anatolia, Istanbul and Jerusalem. I was starting to attack Balkans but Mongols came. God they're so strong. I mean even in the history Mongols defeated Ottomans in Battle of Angora. Can you help guys?

[Inardesco]

The mongols don't siege when they have 3 armies. They siege when they have 6-8 armies.

Thus you beat that siege and then they siege you again.

[PuttBlug]

引用自 Darth Revan：

I am playing with the Turks and i conquered all the Anatolia, Istanbul and Jerusalem. I was starting to attack Balkans but Mongols came. God they're so strong. I mean even in the history Mongols defeated Ottomans in Battle of Angora. Can you help guys?

That's Constantinople, not Istanbul. As for the Mongols, recruit archers and build the best defences available to you. Don't try to defend settlements with bad defences but save your armies to defend Citadels and large cities with towers and above.

By the time the Mongols come you should've been able to upgrade most of your settlements to that level.

[NekRon99]

引用自 LuNi：

Defend yourself on city plaza. Use catapults and stakes from janissary archers. Naffatun are also great for this. Mongols mostly have cav so stakes will absolutely butcher them in defensive sieges.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=486797313

thats a pretty impressive victory as far as Im concerned. it reminded me of a battle I had with 1 turk army against 2 of those mongol doomstacks in a mountain pass chokepoint. very bloody affair but very cool to win.

[Britannicus]

引用自 Generic David：

cheesy tactic is to build cannon towers, let them besiege a city/castle, than sally out with the garrison next turn, they will just sit in front of the walls waiting for your attack, but you can just let the cannon towers slowly kill them since they have extreme reach... but it's not much fun and it borders with cheating

Fairly certain that doesn't work on the higher difficulties, whenever I sally out on Hard or Very Hard, the enemy immediately retreats to the very edge of the map, is the towers' range that large?

[Inardesco]

Tower range is about where they deploy. Thus retreating gets them out of range

[Hat8]

Better to embrace an aggressive strategy. You can rebuild armies and they can't until they have settlements.

Simply be prepared to take heavy losses. If you're further away, let other factions bleed them dry.

[Darth Alpharius]

引用自 Darth Revan：

I am playing with the Turks and i conquered all the Anatolia, Istanbul and Jerusalem. I was starting to attack Balkans but Mongols came. God they're so strong. I mean even in the history Mongols defeated Ottomans in Battle of Angora. Can you help guys?

This should be How to Beat Mongols then Timurids

[Inardesco]

No, if you're sallying out they won't attack you because you're the attacker.

[Randomer]

引用自 Basil Leafus：

I'm dealing with the Mongol as Spain in my game too. Basically you upgrade to cannon towers and wait for them to siege you. Pull any spear/pike units you have and form a V line in front of the gates while your archers rain down arrows. you can even gift the pope any worthless cities near where they are, which the mongol will not cross the buffer zone..or attack it and somehow the whole of europe is on your side! After Mongol...gift the pope persia for the Timmies

Whoa that's a good idea. Sell off all your settlements that border The Mongols to The Papal States. Let The Mongols go nuts on the Papals. Let the Catholics deal with the Mongols whilst you run da hell away to America.

[Randomer]

引用自 4240876367：

Better to embrace an aggressive strategy. You can rebuild armies and they can't until they have settlements.

Simply be prepared to take heavy losses. If you're further away, let other factions bleed them dry.

Damnit. The Mongols settle quite early into the game though. Currently, they have 3 cities in and around Anatolia. Is it wise to pre-maturely attack them?
Problem is I'm the Moors. No settlements in or around the holy land. I just have Africa and most of the Iberian peninsula. Have not discovered gunpowder so I don't even have Destroyer Camels (/camel gunners) yet

[Inardesco]

引用自 R UNIT 777：

Damnit. The Mongols settle quite early into the game though. Currently, they have 3 cities in and around Anatolia. Is it wise to pre-maturely attack them?

When they've settled down its the right time to attack. That means they're spread out instead of bunched up.

That said, if you're in Iberia why bother with the Mongols?

[Randomer]

引用自 Inardesco：

引用自 R UNIT 777：

Damnit. The Mongols settle quite early into the game though. Currently, they have 3 cities in and around Anatolia. Is it wise to pre-maturely attack them?

When they've settled down its the right time to attack. That means they're spread out instead of bunched up.

That said, if you're in Iberia why bother with the Mongols?

Won't they keep spreading until they have a massive empire, by which point they would overpower me?

[Randomer]

They don't seem to have spread out that much though. If I attack one stack now, they will attack me with at least two stacks at the same time. Is that normal for the frickin Mongols?

[Randomer]

More specifically though, if they get a hold over the holy land, they will have a clear path straight into Africa, which I have no intention of losing. At the entrance to Africa and the holy land, there are several bridges. I figure I could hold my ground there. Bad idea?

[Inardesco]

引用自 R UNIT 777：

引用自 Inardesco：

When they've settled down its the right time to attack. That means they're spread out instead of bunched up.

That said, if you're in Iberia why bother with the Mongols?

Won't they keep spreading until they have a massive empire, by which point they would overpower me?

No, their strength, when they arrive, is due to being clustered in a single group and having 7-8 command generals with 7-10 dread. Once they spread out they can be taken out by the AI which often happens due to their aggresive nature.

And yes, they will send multiple stacks because they have the multiple stacks. Hence they need to spread out. That way, they will incur losses and start putting their generals in cities, leaving their armies without generals.

Without generals, their armies are significantly weaker.

But as I said. If you're in Iberia then it's no use going to Anatolia to kill the Mongols. Often they ally with both the Turks and Egypt leaving themselves no room to grow.