Total War: MEDIEVAL II - Definitive Edition

Total War: MEDIEVAL II - Definitive Edition

lc1999 Dec 1, 2016 @ 6:27am
How the faction heir is choosen?
Is it randomly or that general must have some trait or high authority or some other things?

I just hate it when my royal bloodline is gone by those adopted son or man of the something.



pl. even I play SS mod and I have NHA submod I gave the ancillary to the one I want him to be next heir but when the king dies it goes choose randomly again. lol
pl2 If i start another campaign I won't ever accept random marriage , adopt or man of the hour again just for the royal bloodline lol

sorry for my bad English
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Inardesco Dec 1, 2016 @ 12:26pm 
You have a king
That king has a son
Oldest son = heir

If king has no son = no heir
His brother will become king
Nexim95 Dec 1, 2016 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by Inardesco:
You have a king
That king has a son
Oldest son = heir

If king has no son = no heir
His brother will become king
Unfortunately, this isn't always true. Sometimes, even if the previous faction heir has children/descendants that are of age, the game might choose some seemingly-random-distant parent as the new faction heir.
I've been wondering for a while about how the faction heir is chosen as well.
EoNightcore Dec 2, 2016 @ 6:30pm 
Originally posted by lc1999:
If i start another campaign I won't ever accept random marriage , adopt or man of the hour again just for the royal bloodline lol
I usually accept marriages, but not adoption or man of the hour. Because even if a royalty-by-law becomes king, his children will still have royal blood.

In terms of the faction heir being chosen though, I always thought it was, by priority:

1. The Faction Leader's son(s)
2. The Faction Leader's brother(s)
3. The Male Family Member fartest to the left in that generation
Last edited by EoNightcore; Dec 2, 2016 @ 6:34pm
Division Dec 3, 2016 @ 10:26pm 
The faction heir is decided by the oldest in the bloodline.

For example, I'm playing as Milan at the moment and when my Duke died, his son became the new Duke. But his son wasn't old enough yet so his brother became faction heir (because he's the next oldest in the bloodline). Now when he became Duke, his son became the new faction heir (and not the previous Duke's son) because he now as the royal line. Unfortuately the new heir was childless, so when he became Duke the new heir became the next oldest in the bloodline, which was the third child's bloodline from my first Duke. The oldest in that bloodline became the new heir.

This is why distant relatives become heir apparent because they're the next oldest in the bloodline. Thus the cycle continues.

I hope that helps :)
Last edited by Division; Dec 3, 2016 @ 10:38pm
not playing at the moment,so i can't prove your point OP,but yes,sometimes it is rather unexplainable,even with untainted bloodlines,could be a bug,more likely an unidentified modifier,though not sure on either
(the above answers are the usual case)

"The Male Family Member fartest to the left in that generation"..usually the oldest :-)
Last edited by the smoking mค็็็็็n; Dec 4, 2016 @ 1:30am
Herzenveld Aug 17, 2019 @ 3:30am 
The oldest son of the ruler becomes the new heir. It is alright if everybody is of age, but for an example: the king has a son who is the heir and the heir also has a son who isn't of age, then, as the King dies, the oldest (not of age) son of the new king won't become the new heir but the family member with the strongest claim becomes heir. The problem is that this doesn't change the moment the rightfull heir becomes of age.
This is one of the few flaws this game has :(
spaceweezle Aug 18, 2019 @ 6:09pm 
People say that the left-most rule is rare, but I get it in every campaign- which is usually the point I stop playing because it's so damn annoying. Especially annoying in the sense that CA could have just added this functionality in a patch with very little effort. I guess they were too busy making pre-release DLC's..
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Date Posted: Dec 1, 2016 @ 6:27am
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