Mongol and Turk invasion quick guide?

[Shaka]

Ok so not played for ages and i thought I'd see how good the Sudanese gunners were but got caught up in an interesting game as Egypt. So i know mongols invasions coming hell they hang around for like 10 turns before they came at me. So i took Cordoba in case i get totally hammered and have to relocate to spain.
So it was mongols 12 stack and Turmoids 8. So my plan was to make them atttack cities and i could beat them stack against stack but only left with like 20.
This works i was archer heavy and spearmen. so far i managed to keep Cairo and Alex.
But would prefer to be offensive knock them out and conquor europe. Whos got the master plan how can you be offensive againstthese guys I heard people say use canons, battles on bridges but they seem to flank they got enough stacks to. Would like to hear whos got the master plan guys.

[Hat8]

After you blunt their initital free stacks they're like any other faction.

[Shaka]

easier said than done

[Gunther von Rittersburg]

Originally posted by Shaka:

Ok so not played for ages and i thought I'd see how good the Sudanese gunners were but got caught up in an interesting game as Egypt. So i know mongols invasions coming hell they hang around for like 10 turns before they came at me. So i took Cordoba in case i get totally hammered and have to relocate to spain.
So it was mongols 12 stack and Turmoids 8. So my plan was to make them atttack cities and i could beat them stack against stack but only left with like 20.
This works i was archer heavy and spearmen. so far i managed to keep Cairo and Alex.
But would prefer to be offensive knock them out and conquor europe. Whos got the master plan how can you be offensive againstthese guys I heard people say use canons, battles on bridges but they seem to flank they got enough stacks to. Would like to here whos got the master plan guys.

There is little you can do beyond just kill as many Mongols as you can, until they have settled down. After that, they aren't gonna be as fully stacked together.

When they siege your cities, just fight in the Main Square. Leave like 2 units at the gates, as that gives you an excellent chance to kill their General. After that, not much else to do other than just go with the flow of the battle.

If you can, get them to besiege your fortress's and citadels. As they fight to break through the multiple layers of walls, keep crossbowmen on the walls, to continually pelt them! They will lose alot of men and will either break and run for it, or else run out of troops. Be sure to keep your main melee troops, in the main plaza. If they get there and start fighting they'll still be weak.

Its been a while since I fought against the Timurids,but from what I remember, its their elephants that are the problem. Just rain fire arrows down on them continually, and the elephants will, at long last, get spooked. Once the elephants are gone, there is a good chance they will trample their allies under foot...and once they are far away/off the battlefield, sally forth! The Timurids seem only able to recruit artillery and militia levelled troops...no real heavy infantry that Ive seen, unless their Halberdier troops are considered heavy.

[Shaka]

cool i like that tactic fight in main square ill try it

[Ruinae Retroque Rursus]

I'd say fight for the walls, if you have a half-decent general. The towers will cause widespread carnage and will often destroy elephants.

Also, whilst running Retrofit, you get Boiling Oil = even more of a reason to hold the gates.

If you're in a Castle (or better) the plaza actually has a tower or two at the back of it. Move some units down to the very back to get constant arrow fire.


I've gotten rid of the Mongols by playing defensively and then attacking their last army with a full stack; but Mongols are ten times easier to beat in sieges as there their Horse Archers suck.

[Gunther von Rittersburg]

Originally posted by aidenpons:

I'd say fight for the walls, if you have a half-decent general. The towers will cause widespread carnage and will often destroy elephants.

Also, whilst running Retrofit, you get Boiling Oil = even more of a reason to hold the gates.

If you're in a Castle (or better) the plaza actually has a tower or two at the back of it. Move some units down to the very back to get constant arrow fire.


I've gotten rid of the Mongols by playing defensively and then attacking their last army with a full stack; but Mongols are ten times easier to beat in sieges as there their Horse Archers suck.

I wiped out the Mongols one time in a campaign.....only to have them return. Not in the same, apocolyptic manner as the first time. Is there some trick to wiping them out altogether?

[Inardesco]

Mongols spawn twice with a few turns in between the spawns.

[Mr.Person]

I need help with the 2nd invading army (turks?) as Russia, they keep beseiging the castle near where they spawn and they have like 8 full stack armies. I keep beating them back but each battle takes nearly the full hour

[Viksteri]

Originally posted by Shaka:

Ok so not played for ages and i thought I'd see how good the Sudanese gunners were but got caught up in an interesting game as Egypt. So i know mongols invasions coming hell they hang around for like 10 turns before they came at me. So i took Cordoba in case i get totally hammered and have to relocate to spain.
So it was mongols 12 stack and Turmoids 8. So my plan was to make them atttack cities and i could beat them stack against stack but only left with like 20.
This works i was archer heavy and spearmen. so far i managed to keep Cairo and Alex.
But would prefer to be offensive knock them out and conquor europe. Whos got the master plan how can you be offensive againstthese guys I heard people say use canons, battles on bridges but they seem to flank they got enough stacks to. Would like to here whos got the master plan guys.

Id get catapults cause they get a lot of kills whn they try to get to the center

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

I need help with the 2nd invading army (turks?) as Russia, they keep beseiging the castle near where they spawn and they have like 8 full stack armies. I keep beating them back but each battle takes nearly the full hour

Turks have a green flag, Mongols and Timurids don't.

[Mr.Person]

ah its the Timurids, can never remember their name lol

but yea their like 9 armies spawned right next to that castle in the far NorthEast of the map and are constantly besieging it, each battle takes the full time to play. Mostly because for some reason the AI keeps shooting canons at invincible parts of the wall then just stand there and die to the towers until time runs out.

At least in this game you can build/resupply troops in 1 turn so they can't whittle me down too much lol

[Inardesco]

You could always just x6 the battle? Then grab a book, have some dinner, play with the wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend/yourself, walk the dog, pet the cat, watch the telly. Plenty to do. The game will tell you when the battle is done.

[Mr.Person]

yea I guess but it kind of sucks to have to let it sit there that long and not even really get to do anything in the actual battle but at least they are making it easy on me.

Also I don't think I should do x6 because for some reason even though my PC is pretty powerful (way more than this game needs) when I go to x6 the game goes to like 4-8fps making it actually slower than x2.....so each round would still be 30min lol

[Inardesco]

It all depends on the battle really. Some battles drop my fps, usually when theres fighting, and another time I have no issue.

[gibbon monkey]

Do you know if the mongols attack the turks? I'm playing as turks and I'm expanding west a lot, and I don't know if I should fortify the cities to the east