Nothing but FPS Creator and stock assets

[shadow_roman]

Why do "developers" think this is an okay thing to do?

[White Shadow]

Do you actually know how much time and money it takes to even make a game like this? We are not an AAA studio. In the end of the day, if you're not interested in getting the game, you're free to ignore it.

[shadow_roman]

time + money ≠ effort

[White Shadow]

Pretty bold and unsubstantiated accusations. Nothing more.

[shadow_roman]

It's pretty "bold" of you to take stock FPS Creator assets and try to sling it as your own game. It's pretty "bold" of you to ask money for something anybody can make with a few hours and a cheap software license. It's pretty "bold" of you to hide claim the fact that you're not a AAA developer as a justifiable reason why you can push this kind of crap onto Steam.

Go find anybody who's screwed around for even five minutes in FPS Creator (or whatever TGC is calling their shovelware game engine these days) and ask them if my accusations are "unsubstantiated."

[White Shadow]

Yes, they are unsubstantiated, because you don't know how much effort was put into this game, how much money was spent on it, and in fact you haven't even played it to make any judgements towards it. All you are basing your opinion on is that it "looks" like other FPS Creator games, all because it happens to use stock assets. Seriously, go and troll elsewhere. Steam wasn't made specifically for you and not every game is here to cater to your likes.

[criggie]

Not to mention it's 3 bucks.....so out of couriosity why so mad at someone creating something and selling it for once again 3 bucks...

[Dinger]

no tutorial .. hit all keys on keyboard

to find out what is used or not

[White Shadow]

@ Dinger: If you press 'Esc' to see the in-game menu, the controls are displayed just above the menu commands.

@ Criggie: I've seen this happen a lot on community hubs of other indie games too. It seems as though some people are expecting a triple A quality game for under $5, which is just not realistic at all.

[Flappers]

How did this game even make it to Steam?

Graphics - PS1 era
Assets - All of it stock assets

No one is expecting a AAA game, but what people do expect is developers to make their own assets, or at least modify the ones you can download from other people's creations.

Sorry, but this is pathetic, and it shows just how far Steam will go to allow rubbish like this to get through.

[White Shadow]

Again, you're free to ignore it if you don't like it. Steam allows games that have an audience, and since some people do enjoy a game like this, there's a reason why it made it onto Steam.

[shadow_roman]

Originally posted by White Shadow:

Again, you're free to ignore it if you don't like it.

There are many different ways to "not like" a game. If I don't like a game because I'm not into that certain genre or because it doesn't look interesting, that's one thing. I'll leave it alone. I don't like this particular game because you are charging people for a game that shows zero talent and zero creativity. It's a blemish on the Steam Store. So no, I'm not going to ignore games like this because the reason why I don't like them is a completely different reason from why I wouldn't like others.

If we start letting shameless asset flips like this onto Steam, we open the door to even more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ cash-grabbing zero-effort garbage.

[Flappers]

Originally posted by White Shadow:

Again, you're free to ignore it if you don't like it. Steam allows games that have an audience, and since some people do enjoy a game like this, there's a reason why it made it onto Steam.

Sorry but no. This is the type of product that can't be simply ignored.

You have asset flipped everything in your so-called "game". There's no creativity here, everything is stock assets in FPS Creator. It may have taken you a while to make it, but that's not the point. The point is that you took stock assets, and are now trying to sell it all for profit.

The graphics are so washed out, you can get better graphical fidelity on a playstation 1.

I'm open to different art styles, but this isn't even an art style, it's literally low resolution textures, which are included in FPS Creator, which you slapped on to some blocky objects.

Products like these need to be seen and to be shown an example of. Because this is the exact type of product that is ruining Steam.

The amount of shovelware, and absolute tosh that is flooding the store is getting out of hand. There is absolutely no quality control from Valve, and this game is an example of that.

No one wants to play an FPS creator game made with stock assets. Your player numbers show that, as well as the reviews page.

There's no audience, and if you really expect people to spend that amount of money on something that is barely put together in some drag and drop engine, then you've got another thing coming.

[White Shadow]

You guys really have nothing better to do than to troll a page of a random indie game? If you claim that anyone can do this, then what's stopping you? Go ahead and make a game like this and try to sell it. Also, you've got absolutely no data in regard to our player numbers.

[Flappers]

Originally posted by White Shadow:

You guys really have nothing better to do than to troll a page of a random indie game? If you claim that anyone can do this, then what's stopping you? Go ahead and make a game like this and try to sell it. Also, you've got absolutely no data in regard to our player numbers.

Actually

http://steamcharts.com/app/467000

Your top number of concurrent players since release is 17!

Massive following you have there mate.

Not trolling, but stating facts. You are flipping stock assets in an attempt to sell them. I don't have to be a game developer to see that.

And the whole "you make a game then" is an extremely childish response to criticism.

Your game has no options, a terrible resolution, stock assets, really awful control scheme, extremely low texture resolutions. It's just an asset flip.

Do you think movie directors respond to bad reviews as "you make a movie then"?

How about making a proper PC game before releasing a stock asset game?

For example you could:

- create your own assets
- hire someone to create assets
- use a better engine, other than a free engine (FPS creator is just terrible)
- make some actual options for your game
- improve your textures, these 256x256 (if it's even that) is just ridiculous for 2016

There are many many things you could do to improve what you have.

[White Shadow]

Well the game has only just come out. Also, concurrent players doesn't mean total players. Also, I am not aiming for thousands upon thousands of fans with this game. It's just a small game I've released for people to enjoy. Nothing more.

There's nothing childish about my response. You both did claim that ANYONE can make a game like this, so I simply told you that if that's the case, then what's stopping you from doing the same.

From your post, I can tell how little you actually know about game development and how costly custom assets can get. Every asset that I've paid for, I've paid from my own pocket, because quite frankly, I am not an AAA studio and don't have millions to spend, nor a team of dedicated programmers. If you knew anything about game development, you'd know how it can easily leave you out of pocket. Trying out an engine better than FPS Creator is the only valid criticism there, and that is indeed something I am willing to do.

Again, I am not creating the next best thing with this game. I know it's not the best thing since sliced bread, nor do I claim for it to be. Your critique has been noted. So let's leave it at that. Because trolling will not be tolerated on here and we'll have to take some measures.

Lastly, there is no reason for either of you to feel insulted just because I charge money for this game. If someone is willing to buy it, then why is it a problem? It's not like I am coercing other people to buy it. They do it out of their own free will.