When to upgrade tavern?

[warking]

Hello,

I've played for a year now and im kinda in mid game with about 40 pets and almost done doing all the DRC challenges. My strongest god defeated is Ball 35 and I have currenntly 2 dungeon team running 1 in forest and 1 in water doing gnome and undine quest.

When should I farm to upgrade tavern? is it more valuable then having then having gnome? I dont have fridge yet so I dont know wether i should spend GP on food or go on lengthy food campaign to aquire Mighty food

[muljostpho]

Well, he designed it to be kinda noob friendly early on (pets need to be evolved to participate and the requirements look at their class level, but the bar starts as low as it possibly can) and to later be able to grow to become really important for long term players. Each next tavern level calls for more and more resources though, so saving up mighty food for them might get rough without the fridge.

(You also have to consider the logistics of having pets of the right classes available. The specifics will vary with each tavern level as the quests in each rank ask for different classes, but typically you'd probably want 2-3 of each class that you can spare without rearranging dungeon teams, without interrupting any important crafting, and without breaking apart your growth camp / item camp / whatever other camps you prioritize.)

Quests in the F, E, and D ranks (that's the quest pool at tavern level 3) will ask for pets with class levels anywhere from 1 to 15. Rewards from many of the quests in those ranks can include T1 mats or T2 mats. Earlygame stuff there.

Quests in the C, B, and A ranks (that's the quest pool at tavern level 6) will ask for pets with class levels anywhere from 15 to 30. Rewards from many of the quests in those ranks can include T2 mats or T3 mats or (in A rank) even the bars. Pretty much in the midgame here, more or less

Quests in the S, SS, and SSS ranks (that's the quest pool at tavern level 9) will ask for pets with class levels anywhere from 30 to 75. (These really ramp up quick from one rank to the next instead of clustering as close together as the class level requirements in the lower ranks.) Rewards from many of the quests in those ranks can include T3 mats or T4 mats or even the light/dark mats that can be used for the not fully implemented yet light/dark gear. You're somewhere in some sort of endgame grind if you're ready for these.

Note that GP rewards from the quests start to get pretty significant by about rank A or so. Getting around to running all of the UBCs is kind of a mark of finishing "midgame" and if you can be running rank A or higher quests in them the extra GP can really help.

A quick little side note: Finishing the DRCs is an earlygame thing, not something that people associate with midgame at all.

[warking]

Thanks for the quick answer

I played for like 3 years-ish and have 1.5 hours in game. I kinda play like 2 times a day to do pet campaign and assigning higher level crystals. Starting taking DRC challenges more seriously 3 month ago.

I'm pretty happy with progress so far but im quite worried im doing something wrong or forget something essential/ I have a 13k growth team and can do only up to depth 2 dungeons diff 7 dungeon with the right gears. lacking supporters and rogues but almost have my salamander high enough to evolve shark as adventurer

[Alberich]

Originally posted by warking:

I'm pretty happy with progress so far

That's the big thing...you're not competing with anyone except yourself.

Originally posted by warking:

but im quite worried im doing something wrong or forget something essential/ I have a 13k growth team and can do only up to depth 2 dungeons diff 7 dungeon with the right gears. lacking supporters and rogues but almost have my salamander high enough to evolve shark as adventurer

Well, one thing that helped me a bit...is that I pretty much ignored the tavern quests and even the fish pond for a long time while I concentrated on dungeons and campaigns; there's no obligation to use every feature in the game all at once. As your army of pets grows and you have more pets to spare, you might like letting the village take some of the overflow. That's what I did.

Higher growth in the growth team would speed your progress too, but I only know slow ways to do that: either run them through dungeons with growth events, or run them in growth campaigns so they jump over each other to climb to higher levels (If a 12-hour campaign gets you 500 growth and you have 10 pets in the campaign, you'll need 10 days to grow them all by 1000...though of course they grow more the bigger they get).

[n00bdragon]

Tavern is extremely powerful, but it's not reasonable to go beyond level 1 unless you have the fridge. At first, the rewards will be not that great, but there is a notable increase to power at Rank 3 when you first gain access to the Monument Defender and Milking quests.

[Cacomistle]

I think tavern is quite good. As the person above said though, you need fridge for the food requirements. I'd also say having spare pets to meet the class requirements helps a lot, but if you have even so much as 1 adventurer you can at least progress the tavern.

But aside from that, the later rewards for tavern are very strong. Mine is at SS and its getting me something around 20-30 gp/h (and for reference my current gp/h is about 200, so its accounting for 10-15%), pretty average class experience with occasional growth, and a pretty significant chunk of my T4 materials.

You can also only get 3 simultaneous quests, so even getting only 1 pet in there is still 1/3rd of the progress that an end game player would make.

Its a long term investment though. Early quests are not particularly useful. I think for me it only started to feel worthwhile around rank B. But I was significantly further into the game than you are now (I think I was around P baal 90-100) when I started tavern. So you may see more use out of early quests because you might need for instance T3 dungeon gear (I didn't, I only needed T4 gear).

[YukiD1st]

I found the dungeons to be a lot better no only for the exp, but for the resources themselves. So I just had a "useless" pet in the Tavern for months doing the Eggs quest for the points. Somewhere around last month I got to the S tier and its freaking amazing for T4 Materials. 6 hours to get me something it would take me days.

So I'd say "Whenever you've got the resources to spare for it"