UAC question

[n00bdragon]

The guide (Odin's UAC guide) I'm following says that on Rebirth #1 I should aim for a multiplier of ~3e7 physical and mystic, 5k+ in all trainings except the last 5 which should be at 50k+, and with this I should be able to "easily" beat Hathor. I've achieved the above (more, I've got my last 6 trainings to 50k+) and I'm nowhere near being able to deal positive damage to Hathor. Is there something else I should consider? I'm black barring monsters as high as Kobold and I've done a bit of might training (61 might). I've read and reread this guide a dozen times and I don't think I'm missing anything written here. Any thoughts?

[Hsanrb]

61 might seems rather low, don't you aim for something like 5-10 in each category especially with how fast the first two Unleash Might categories are faster than the main ones. Its been years since I've done my UAC's to remember but I thought you aimed for 80-100 might or something. Since every 4 is 1%... that would be 25% increase in stats/dmg.

Also Monsters are pretty much useless once your at soft cap... so unless your killing them with 1 clone they aren't worth the clone space.

[n00bdragon]

I've gotten Might up to 86 now. Now working on getting my top 8 physical/skills to 50k+. Phys/Mystic multis are now at 599.5 / 3.644 E+7 and I'm still nowhere close. Is this guide just out of date? Did UAC get harder?

[luizpedronovak]

it has been some time since my UACs, and for the second I promptly bought gp at the start to have an easier time. So, it's hard to answer your question with some precision.

That said, I remember having some problems to reach Hathor at first, and the guides seemed to be too optimistic on the requirements for that fight, and, well, for all fights. Reaching each god was always a little harder than the guides indicated, but not much. Anyway, I stopped paying atention to the stats at that point, and used only time to measure progress. Aka 7 days should be enough for this or that god, etc.

To the first rebirth the main focus for my game were 1 - clones and 2 - 1 capped trainings. Having those, the god reached was more of a bonus than anything. Also, 7 days seemed to be enough for maxing clones, having enough 1 caps and reaching Hathor.

[Jeanie]

This may be useful:
https://youtu.be/lG2Vjvq28VA?list=PLjQ5i57Fja-aYgcLQx5ZdTuQQwQKjDQ1V&t=2498

Mights are at 145 and attack ist at 56 trillion here.

I am looking forward doing my first UAC as soon as my 1KC's are done,

[starwol]

Sadly I did my UBCs in the dark ages an eternity ago but guide OP is referring to can be found in this post:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/466170/discussions/0/3880365909903021846/?ctp=3#c5350815203297600312

It is worth nothing robt_0 (few posts earlier in that thread who Odin based their run on) went for Gefion in RB1 and still targets Nepthys in RB2. That suggests missing Hathor won't be a run killer. But worth double checking just in case.

So does the DMC unleash might bonus work in UAC or not? Although, I don't see it making much of an impact at low unleash in any case...(it's just the only thing that comes to mind when trying to explain how two people with the same challenges done get different outcomes, either that or Gefion being typo'd to Hathor)

[n00bdragon]

Yeah, DMC bonuses are disabled. I'm putting more into Might now and trying to get my physical up enough to where I can do damage. Any hopes of this run being "fast" are dead, but I just want this challenge set over with so hopefully when I do the second one I'll have a good idea of what the targets actually are. I just wonder how the people who made these guides did it with the stats they claim to.

[luizpedronovak]

How long are you in this rebirth, by the way? Back in the day, minimum time to finish the challenge and get the rewards was 20 days or something like this, and now it's 14 days. Take care to not make it too fast (even if doing it that fast without purchases or cheating would be extremely hard anyway, but still)

[n00bdragon]

Currently just over 6 days in.

[n00bdragon]

~~Dawn of the 7th Day~~
Total Might up to 108
Train on Dimension X: ~120k (~2k clones are piled here for now)
Attack: 3.6 E+12
Physical: 9.2 E+12
Mystic: 7.6 E+12

I've eliminated about half of the negative damage I was dealing to Hathor. Down now to about -1.8 E+13 damage and I'm able to persist in the fight as long as Unleash is going. Hopefully in another day or two I'll have enough stats to deal positive damage and it should go quickly from there.

[n00bdragon]

~~Dawn of the 8th Day~~
Train on Dimension X: 260k
Attack: 6.0 E+12
Physical: 1.6 E+13

I'm finally dealing positive damage to Hathor (about 9.0 E+12 per hit) but it's not yet enough to defeat him during unleash. I'll check again this evening.

[WristWeightsEngaged]

Hey man, you should check out the game's official discord at https://discord.gg/r2u6VNU

Lot's of helpful people in there!

[Variant 13]

Originally posted by n00bdragon:

~~Dawn of the 8th Day~~
Train on Dimension X: 260k
Attack: 6.0 E+12
Physical: 1.6 E+13

I'm finally dealing positive damage to Hathor (about 9.0 E+12 per hit) but it's not yet enough to defeat him during unleash. I'll check again this evening.

You've got more patience than I have, I skipped Hathor on the first rebirth, I'd say the most important thing to do is maxing out your clone soft-cap as it makes everything so much easier after the rebirth (particularly Might training).

I'm 26 days in myself, on my 4th rebirth, and waiting to kill Jupiter so I can start farming UBs & crystals.

[n00bdragon]

~~Rebirth #1 - Dawn of the 9th Day~~
Train on Dimension X: 400k
Attack: 8.0 E+12
Physical: 2.2 E+13

Still no noticeable increase in damage to Hathor.

[Variant 13]

Personally, if you don't make progress soon I skip her & rebirth; it's nice to have the boost, but you can make up for it with more Might & in the 3rd rebirth with monument upgrades.

Originally posted by Variant 13:

I'm 26 days in myself, on my 4th rebirth, and waiting to kill Jupiter so I can start farming UBs & crystals.

I'm not a happy person at the moment, because it's been so long since I played the early game I forgot that you need to kill Odin to get an earth-like planet to unlock the first UB.

[n00bdragon]

Day 15 - Success!
Train on Dimension X: 1.3 E+6
Attack: 3.4 E+13
Physical: 9.8 E+13

Increased Transformation Aura up to 10 and Mystic Mode up to 5 giving a 15 second full unleash to just barely slide over the line.
15 days and 9 hours. What a crazy ride. Well, on to Rebirth #2