creation speed

[76561199353791575]

hello everyone. I hope you're all having a great day. I think i have a problem in creation speed as in no matter how much speed i have , it doesnt change the speed itself. for example when my mouse is on one of the skills it tells me that i should have a number in the septillion something but my i am still still struggling to get maybe a million in a day. what can i do in this situation ? i also have my rebirth states in the minus .

[NimrodAbsolution⁧⁧98]

the raw creation stat counts towards creation speed, but only up to a cap, after that you need secondary sources like crystals & crystal power (ubc challenge), purchasing creation speed w/ god power, dungeon equipment, etc to raise your creation speed.

[muljostpho]

Creations and skills are two different things, but I'll assume that you're at least not actually getting things that mixed up.

Anyway, some terms to distinguish here:
* creations (the whole list of light, stone, soil, air, etc. that you learn how to make after beating each god up to Baal, and clones are listed at the top of this page too)
* creating stat (one of your god stats listed under your god's portrait on the left, it's the last stat on the list, you gain it while making creations)
* CS multiplier (CS for short, and it's something that you buy with GP, check its value in the GP shop and check the tooltip for a breakdown of where it's coming from)
* creation speed (no shorthand is used to refer to this one, and it's a value that determines how quickly you can make creations, check the value in the tooltip for your creating stat or at the end of the tooltip for your CS multiplier)
* creation count (CC for short, and this is another thing that you buy with GP, this is how many of a creation you can make at the same time with each time that the bar fills up)

So when you're working on making a particular creation there's a progress bar that fills up. For clones and for the light and stone creations, you always make your full creation count with every completion of the bar no matter what you set the CC slider to (there's a slider at the top of the creations page when your max CC is 2 or higher). For other creations, you can use the slider to select a lower number to make.

Each creation has some base speed hardcoded into the game, and then the creation speed is used to shorten those times. The game engine has a hard cap on I forget how many (something like 33.5 I think) bar fills per second if creation speed is high enough.

Clones, light, and stone all reach this cap with somewhere around 245 CS from GP if you've got enough creating stat to max out its part of the multiplier that turns CS into actual creation speed. Without any boost from creating stat, it's something more like 3255 CS from GP to make those at max speed. Other creations after that will need even more CS to max out their speed since their base times start out longer, of course.

I think creation speed should also factor into how much creating stat you gain while making creations? There are other multipliers affecting it besides that, though. I don't really know what all exactly goes into determining these numbers, to be honest.

EDIT: Max speed should be 33.33 bars per second, not 33.5. There's a rule of thumb that having 1 CC per every 20k clones you have will let you create all of your clones in 10 minutes. (You can scale up or down from there depending on how fast you want to be able to do that. 1 CC per 40k clones takes 20 minutes, for example.) Anyway, whether you're looking at clones or any of the creations CC is how you overcome the limitation of this max speed to make large numbers of something.

[76561199353791575]

Originally posted by muljostpho:

Creations and skills are two different things, but I'll assume that you're at least not actually getting things that mixed up.

Anyway, some terms to distinguish here:
* creations (the whole list of light, stone, soil, air, etc. that you learn how to make after beating each god up to Baal, and clones are listed at the top of this page too)
* creating stat (one of your god stats listed under your god's portrait on the left, it's the last stat on the list, you gain it while making creations)
* CS multiplier (CS for short, and it's something that you buy with GP, check its value in the GP shop and check the tooltip for a breakdown of where it's coming from)
* creation speed (no shorthand is used to refer to this one, and it's a value that determines how quickly you can make creations, check the value in the tooltip for your creating stat or at the end of the tooltip for your CS multiplier)
* creation count (CC for short, and this is another thing that you buy with GP, this is how many of a creation you can make at the same time with each time that the bar fills up)

So when you're working on making a particular creation there's a progress bar that fills up. For clones and for the light and stone creations, you always make your full creation count with every completion of the bar no matter what you set the CC slider to (there's a slider at the top of the creations page when your max CC is 2 or higher). For other creations, you can use the slider to select a lower number to make.

Each creation has some base speed hardcoded into the game, and then the creation speed is used to shorten those times. The game engine has a hard cap on I forget how many (something like 33.5 I think) bar fills per second if creation speed is high enough.

Clones, light, and stone all reach this cap with somewhere around 245 CS from GP if you've got enough creating stat to max out its part of the multiplier that turns CS into actual creation speed. Without any boost from creating stat, it's something more like 3255 CS from GP to make those at max speed. Other creations after that will need even more CS to max out their speed since their base times start out longer, of course.

I think creation speed should also factor into how much creating stat you gain while making creations? There are other multipliers affecting it besides that, though. I don't really know what all exactly goes into determining these numbers, to be honest.

EDIT: Max speed should be 33.33 bars per second, not 33.5. There's a rule of thumb that having 1 CC per every 20k clones you have will let you create all of your clones in 10 minutes. (You can scale up or down from there depending on how fast you want to be able to do that. 1 CC per 40k clones takes 20 minutes, for example.) Anyway, whether you're looking at clones or any of the creations CC is how you overcome the limitation of this max speed to make large numbers of something.

you're right i seem to be stuck at 0.03 creation per second no matter how high my creation speed is > it seems that's the cap and you can't overcome it.

[n00bdragon]

Do you mean Creating or Creation Speed? Creating is found in your stat block on the lower left hand corner of the screen underneath your god underneath the word "Battle". That is your "Creating", not Creation Speed. Creating contributes to Creation Speed (up to a cap). To view your actual Creation Speed, go to the God Power page and it should be near the top underneath the "Keep Minimum God Power" window. You will see "Your current creating speed multiplier: X %" This is the actual multiplier for any time you build stuff in the Creating tag.