Idling to Rule the Gods

Idling to Rule the Gods

Noc Jun 23, 2020 @ 2:25pm
Some questions from a "New player"
Hello !
First of all, sorry for my english it's not my native language.
I started ITRTG late february and I have 1200 hours played.
I still don't understand a lot of things and I'm not sure I'm playing correctly even tho I did over 100 rebirth x)

First thing I'm often wondering is "When should I start doing dungeons?"
I have 11 pets (mouse-supporter / frog / bee / cupid / egg / squirrel / pumpkin / hermit / robot / otter and FSM) and since the start I'm running food campain with 10 pets, should I keep doing it ?

Second thing is I would like to evolve my hermit in blacksmith class but I need 1M pet mystic multiplier. The multiplier campain really suck right ? I tried it for 12h and it gave me like 20%.
To evolve this pet should I keep fighting clones until I have 1M pet mystic mult. ?

What should I do in general ? Should I push baal versions ? Should I try to speedrun ?
I really feel I'm not efficient AT ALL : I did 1 UBC , 2 DRC, 1 DPC and 3 CBC.

Thank you for your help :)
Last edited by Noc; Jun 23, 2020 @ 2:28pm
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Fel Jun 23, 2020 @ 2:54pm 
First thing I'm often wondering is "When should I start doing dungeons?"
Probably as soon as you can afford to.
Dungeons are very good for many things, you can get GP, pet stones, pet growth or items to craft things.
The main issue is that it takes a while to get a team running in a proper dungeon (not the newbie ground).

With frog, hermit crab and otter as the base you could consider running the water temple, you would only need to turn the hermit crab into a blacksmith along the way to get the most out of that dungeon.
Just by having 3 water pets you get a ot of things (GP, pet stones and materials), by having a blacksmith you get even more materials.
This is provided that you survive so you will have to spend a while in the newbie ground first to get their level up a bit anyway.

since the start I'm running food campain with 10 pets, should I keep doing it ?
Food campaign is alright-ish but that's about it, the campaigns you might want to focus on are the item campaign (because pet stones are needed in large quantities to unlock pets and various bonuses, you also get a decent amount of the premium consumables from it), growth campaign (having a high growth helps in nearly all situations, especially campaigns) and god power campaign (this one is not one you can run early on but later it will be one of your GP sources).

That being said right now there is an event going on, you might want to keep 10 pets on the "beach" campaign at least until you get enough sand to get the pet token to unlock an extra pet.


Second thing is I would like to evolve my hermit in blacksmith class but I need 1M pet mystic multiplier. The multiplier campain really suck right ? I tried it for 12h and it gave me like 20%.
The multiplier is the sum of the mystic stat of all of your pets multiplied by the bonus from the campaign, so at low stats the campaign can't do much but at high stats it can really help quite a bit.
One thing to consider is to leave this alone for now and do it later when your pets have a higher growth.
At that point levelling them with your clones will make their stats rise quite a bit, easily increasing your multiplier.

What should I do in general ? Should I push baal versions ? Should I try to speedrun ?
I really feel I'm not efficient AT ALL : I did 1 UBC , 2 DRC, 1 DPC and 3 CBC.
It's up to you but the recommendation would be to go for DRCs and get all 50 of them out of the way for now.
Especially early on the free might levels are really good and it helps building up your total might pretty quickly, which will help you in nearly every situation.
You might already have noticed but CBC is not for new players at all, it takes several days if you don't have stong pets and/or premium consumables and the reward is not worth that big time investment.
You already did the DPC and UBC so you are fine on that front too.

Climbing p baals doesn't get you much early on, maybe after the DRCs but right now it won't even allow you to pay for your pet food.

Speedrun is a very specific play style that relies nearly exclusively on GP by being very active and sacrificing progress in nearly every other aspect .
Crystal power, anything related to pets and most campaigns are not really possible with speed rebirths.
Since it requires a very different balance in stat distribution compared to normal rebirths you can't feasibly transition from one to the other often and hope to get good progress in both so it is a fairly commited style that rewards you with a lot of GP when done right (but not necessarily that much more progress than playing normally because of what you sacrifice).
Similar to the p baal thing, it requires a decent amount of stats to start being efficient anyway so you might as well run some challenges for now as you think about it.
luizpedronovak Jun 23, 2020 @ 3:00pm 
Hi!

Originally posted by Malveillante:
First thing I'm often wondering is "When should I start doing dungeons?"
As soon as possible. Evolved pets are very useful, and you need materials. To get materials, you need high dungeon level pets, so even if you do some not optimal dungeon runs, it will help later when you do then the right way. Focus on getting 16 pets, so you can get 1 full campaign and one dungeon team all the time. It's a good start.

Originally posted by Malveillante:
I have 11 pets (mouse-supporter / frog / bee / cupid / egg / squirrel / pumpkin / hermit / robot / otter and FSM) and since the start I'm running food campain with 10 pets, should I keep doing it ?
No, you should stop. Focus on Growth campaign for a while, to improve your pets. Food is really a side campaign, in the end: useful, but not your main focus.

Originally posted by Malveillante:
Second thing is I would like to evolve my hermit in blacksmith class but I need 1M pet mystic multiplier. The multiplier campain really suck right ? I tried it for 12h and it gave me like 20%.
To evolve this pet should I keep fighting clones until I have 1M pet mystic mult. ?
You need growth. To get more from most campaigns, you need high stats pets, and to get high stats, you grow them first and make them fight clones/ level campaigns. After that, you do the multi campaign.
How much growth your pets have?

Originally posted by Malveillante:
What should I do in general ? Should I push baal versions ? Should I try to speedrun ?
I really feel I'm not efficient AT ALL : I did 1 UBC , 2 DRC, 1 DPC and 3 CBC.
Challenges. Focus on doing 50 DRC first. A bit boring, but they will become easier with every one finished. After those, do a few varied challenges to see which one is the more fun/rewarding. This very detailed guide may be helpful : https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1585399745

For GP, more clones is always a good start. How many you have?
You should definitely run Beach until you can at least buy the pet token. More pets are always better, and events are a relatively easy way to get them. Unlike most campaigns, event campaigns don't depend on your pets' stats. If you get the pet token and still have time before the event finishes, you can choose to continue running the event (probably for more pet stones) or to start dungeons right away. The other rewards from the event are useful in the long run but won't do much right away except for chocolate, so it's up to you. (Since you have 11 pets, you could send one to the Newbie Grounds dungeon while the other 10 run the Beach. It will die at first but might get some XP to jumpstart your dungeon runs later on. Alternatively, you can keep your Pumpkin on food campaigns for chocolate.)

Once the event finishes or you get the token and choose to stop running it, it's definitely a good idea to start on dungeons. Dungeons are far more efficient than campaigns in the early game since they depend less on your pets' growth and stats. After running Newbie Grounds until about dungeon level 10, I would suggest starting on the Mountain to bring your growth up. All you need to get the bonus growth is 2 wind pets (probably Cupid and Egg). Once you have one, a blacksmith will also help to complete the Unattended Weapons event, and a supporter will help you stay alive (Mouse isn't ideal for the Mountain because of its element, but Frog isn't too hard to evolve.) You could round out the team with just about any pets (team composition isn't terribly important at depth 1 aside from dungeon events), but I would suggest Robot and Otter. These are both pets that will ultimately be the stars of your growth campaign, but they'll get there much sooner if you send them to the Mountain until they reach the 25k or at least 10k growth tier, then move them to growth campaigns and put some real dungeon pets on your dungeon team.

It's also worth trying to get some more pets. Mole isn't too hard to get, and Gold Dragon is basically free if you're willing to play Idle Cooking Emperor a little.
Noc Jun 23, 2020 @ 10:22pm 
Thanks a lot for your help guys !
Yeah I'm doing events as soon as I can, I understand pets are one if not the most important thing in this game :D .
Ok I'll focus on my DRCs.

Originally posted by luizpedronovak:

How much growth your pets have?
For GP, more clones is always a good start. How many you have?

I have 42 000 pet growth.
I have 180 000 clones / 10 CC / 258 CS (245 + 13 from crystal power) / 1273 BS (1260 + 13 from crystal power) and 50 banked gp.
luizpedronovak Jun 24, 2020 @ 6:30am 
Originally posted by Malveillante:
I have 42 000 pet growth.

So, average of 3800 per pet, 1270 per stat. Well, that's low but not too low, and it certainly needs work. With growth campaigns after the event, you should be able to triple that soon.

Originally posted by Malveillante:
I have 180 000 clones / 10 CC / 258 CS (245 + 13 from crystal power) / 1273 BS (1260 + 13 from crystal power) and 50 banked gp.

2 small points to look for: banked GP helps a LOT with DRC and other multi reset challenges. Also, 1M clones is a point where you can start to farm UBs without much impact in the rest of the game.
Cacomistle Jun 24, 2020 @ 11:14am 
Until you finish all of the UPC and get decent pet growth, mountain campaign gives more efficient growth than growth campaigns do (on top of obviously giving dungeon experience and materials). Its a bit of an investment to start (you need some levels to do it in the first place which takes a few days, and you'll need an alchemist for boots and a supporter if you want to go more than an hour or so at a time), but it will pay off over time. I'd say its worth working towards already, since food campaigns are really not gonna give you any sort of insane growth anyways.

You should be getting a pet with the event right now, and after that you should have at least 12 pets, quite possibly like 13 if you reach a higher p baal for a pet unlock, or even 14-15 if you haven't unlocked pets like mole, camel, or gold dragon by now.

Once you have 16-17 pets, there's no reason not to throw 10 on growth (or food, not sure which one gives more early game) and 6 on mountain, with an alchemist occasionally making flying boots.
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