NDMC (No Divinity Monument Challenge) - Duration for the Bonus Round

[Fortunato]

Quick question for those of you who went for the 22nd NDMC and completed it: Does it take longer than the 21st/final regular one?

I'm doing my 21. NDMC right now, 38 days so far and approximately 5-7 days to go (500/47 Temple of God atm). That's about as long as an UAC 😅 Am I in for a second of those with NDMC-22?

[damadorPL]

did 21 under 17 hrs :) - no need for 22nd

[Fortunato]

Originally posted by damadorPL:

did 21 under 17 hrs :) - no need for 22nd

Teach me, Senpai! 😅😱

[Fortunato]

Seriously though: I have 1'000 CC, a Creation Speed Multi of currently 116k% and about 13'000 GP all stashed on Bonus Creating. Went through almost 200 Godly Liquids by now. Still takes ages to create Weather.

[Fel]

On one hand you have less of everything from soil to weather, on the other hand you have significantly more in light and stone (add a few digits to the number).

As a result the challenge should easily take several times the amount of time the 21st took.

And that is assuming that you fully cleared the black hole challenge because it would be significantly worse without it.
Of course since BHC is much easier to clear it shouldn't even be a factor but it is worth mentionning it just in case.

[Fel]

Originally posted by Fortunato:

Seriously though: I have 1'000 CC, a Creation Speed Multi of currently 116k% and about 13'000 GP all stashed on Bonus Creating. Went through almost 200 Godly Liquids by now. Still takes ages to create Weather.

Did you use a spreadsheet or the wiki's formulas to determine how much of each creation you needed?
It doesn't change much on the time it will take but if you set those numbers as the target it gives you a much better visibility of how close you are to the end.

After all, with those stats you BB up to towns without godly liquids, meaning that those godly liquids have very little impact (you only need a bit over 40k weathers, if you have all of the required creations it barely takes any time).

For a different reason than godly liquids, GP on creating stat is useless unless you somehow idn't reach into the E+45 range right away (the challenge is not a reset challenge so your stat should in theory be many times higher than that right from the first few seconds.
Past that point you get x10 from the stat no matter how high it goes, so the GP would have made a much bigger impact spent on CC.

[luizpedronovak]

Originally posted by Fel:

After all, with those stats you BB up to towns without godly liquids, meaning that those godly liquids have very little impact (you only need a bit over 40k weathers, if you have all of the required creations it barely takes any time).

For a different reason than godly liquids, GP on creating stat is useless unless you somehow idn't reach into the E+45 range right away (the challenge is not a reset challenge so your stat should in theory be many times higher than that right from the first few seconds.
Past that point you get x10 from the stat no matter how high it goes, so the GP would have made a much bigger impact spent on CC.

Sorry, but it seems you are not considering the overflow creations. Godly Liquids have a giant importance when creating stones and lights in that challenge.

[HappyIguana]

Originally posted by Fel:

On one hand you have less of everything from soil to weather, on the other hand you have significantly more in light and stone (add a few digits to the number).

As a result the challenge should easily take several times the amount of time the 21st took.

And that is assuming that you fully cleared the black hole challenge because it would be significantly worse without it.
Of course since BHC is much easier to clear it shouldn't even be a factor but it is worth mentionning it just in case.

Godly liquids affect overflow, so you create 4 times faster with liquids than without

[Fortunato]

Originally posted by Fel:

Originally posted by Fortunato:

Seriously though: I have 1'000 CC, a Creation Speed Multi of currently 116k% and about 13'000 GP all stashed on Bonus Creating. Went through almost 200 Godly Liquids by now. Still takes ages to create Weather.

For a different reason than godly liquids, GP on creating stat is useless unless you somehow idn't reach into the E+45 range right away (the challenge is not a reset challenge so your stat should in theory be many times higher than that right from the first few seconds.
Past that point you get x10 from the stat no matter how high it goes, so the GP would have made a much bigger impact spent on CC.

I'm at P.Baal 75 at the moment, so: yes, my stats are pretty high. Increased to 1150 CC just now (was next on my investment list anyway).

I'm creating Air most of the time. That's what takes that long since I need beyond 500 billion of those for every 1k Weather.

(The BHCs are cleared of course.)

Any tips to speed things up, something I'm not seeing?

[Fel]

I had completely missed that aspect of the challenge, so indeed the godly liquid (and v2) does impact it quite a bit.

It also means that Fortunato's comparatively low CS is what is hindering him the most (since it is not exactly super useful past 100k in normal rebirths).

[luizpedronovak]

Originally posted by Fortunato:

I'm creating Air most of the time. That's what takes that long since I need beyond 500 billion of those for every 1k Weather.

(The BHCs are cleared of course.)

Any tips to speed things up, something I'm not seeing?

Have you done the DNDC? Have you created a few crystals? They make quite a difference together.

[Fortunato]

Originally posted by luizpedronovak:

Originally posted by Fortunato:

I'm creating Air most of the time. That's what takes that long since I need beyond 500 billion of those for every 1k Weather.

(The BHCs are cleared of course.)

Any tips to speed things up, something I'm not seeing?

Have you done the DNDC? Have you created a few crystals? They make quite a difference together.

DNDC - yes
Crystals no. My modules are all at level 60 by now 😅 Didn't think of that... Maybe that's what I didn't see!

[luizpedronovak]

Originally posted by Fel:

I had completely missed that aspect of the challenge, so indeed the godly liquid (and v2) does impact it quite a bit.

You should try that challenge some time. They are super fun! One takes like, 8 minutes, and the following one takes 4 hours, the next 20 minutes, the next 3 days, etc. :D

[luizpedronovak]

Originally posted by Fortunato:

DNDC - yes
Crystals no. My modules are all at level 60 by now 😅 Didn't think of that... Maybe that's what I didn't see!

A minimum of ~ 10% (15% if maxed) of cost reduction in everything after stones, and dozens and dozens of CC.

[Fortunato]

Originally posted by luizpedronovak:

Originally posted by Fortunato:

DNDC - yes
Crystals no. My modules are all at level 60 by now 😅 Didn't think of that... Maybe that's what I didn't see!

A minimum of ~ 10% (15% if maxed) of cost reduction in everything after stones, and dozens and dozens of CC.

Yup, got 12% reduction. Going to build 60 creation crystals now and see what happens...

[luizpedronovak]

Originally posted by Fortunato:

Yup, got 12% reduction. Going to build 60 creation crystals now and see what happens...

60??? Good luck, and take care to not waste those Airs and Waters! It's a few billions to make 60 crystals!