When to start challenges?

[Erik (Meeni)]

I just defeated Baal for the first time, on my rebirth to defeat him again now.
My creation speed is 280%, build speed is 455% and thats all the god power I have acquired so far. My planet is level 1 (cold planet) and my might is giving me 147%.

When is an appropriate time to start challenges, should I start immediatly? And what would be the first challenge I should start with and when?

[Fel]

As soon as possible would be the answer, because they really give you plenty of long term boons.

What challenge to start with depends on your gameplay style, but my advice would be DPC (day pet challenge) once, then UBC (ultimate baal challenge) once.

The first one will only take a day, and even if your pets are really weak and you don't have much to train them properly, just sending them to level campaigns and making sure they are fed before the 24h mark means that all the food you will give them from then on will be slightly better.
Because DPC only takes the best result, there is no need to go at it too often, but it's a good idea to do one early on.

UBC unlocks crystals on your planet, which are really important for the long run because they give you CP (crystal power) that boosts creation speed, build speed as well as how much your spare GP put in the main stats (with the sliders) give you.
The challenge itself seals most progress and it is mostly like doing your first run in the game again, with the only real difference being that your training caps are kept.
Everything will be back when you finish it and any GP earned during the challenge (even if used) will be given to you as unused on top of the challenge's reward, so don't hesitate in putting it towards CS and BS like you did in your first run through the game.


After those two, you have multiple options opened to you, DRC (double rebirth challenge, all 50 of them) is something you want to do somewhat early on, because the free Might levels really add up over time and let you reach really high boosts when you unlock Might after a while, but they also benefit greatly from you having higher stats/progress, so do them at your own rythm.

Climbing P Baals (not a challenge, just continuing to kill higher and higher gods) rewards you with pets every 5 p baal, increases the base of your divinity generator (highest god killed is what counts) and provide you with a lot of p baal points, which can be transformed into pet food (better value if you bought the refrigerator from the cash shop) or pet stones (that can be used to buy a whole range of things, including upgrading pet food, and pet stones stay when rebirthing).
You will quickly reach a soft cap doing that early on because your statistic multiplier will reach its maximum value, leaving you with only the god multiplier increasing (so x2 instead of x4 each time), and you will need longer and longer rebirths to be able to climb towards the next god, so there comes a time where it might be good to stop and do other things.
That said, because you kill a lot of gods each rebirth, it gets you a pretty significant amount of GP too, so it's not a bad thing to do once in a while in between challenges.


If you are able to stand making little to no progress for a month or more, you could swap UBC with UAC (ultimate arty challenge), which is more or less the same except you only have 5 rebirths worth to climb all the way to baal and your training caps are reset too.
On the other hand, you gain a substancial reward on top of the crystals and GP in the form of a pet (turtle the first time, pet token the second time, nothing after that), so it's up to you to decide if it's worth the time or not.

[Erik (Meeni)]

First of all, thank you so much for the well written and quick reply!

So if I get this right, any god power or multipliers I currently have dont really matter for these challenges as I will get them all back after I complete any challenge?

My play style at the moment is really active as I only started this game a little over a week ago and I quite like the micro managing.

For the UBC you mentioned my training caps are kept, what are those exactly?

I will probably start with the DPC then, sent them on a 12 hour leveling mission ( I have the first 3 pets atm) and then an 11 hour one seems like the best approach and do some clone killing in the last hour.

[matthias.huisgen]

Well Fel was faster than me and I basically wanted to say the same.

Originally posted by Erik van L:

First of all, thank you so much for the well written and quick reply!

So if I get this right, any god power or multipliers I currently have dont really matter for these challenges as I will get them all back after I complete any challenge?

My play style at the moment is really active as I only started this game a little over a week ago and I quite like the micro managing.

For the UBC you mentioned my training caps are kept, what are those exactly?

I will probably start with the DPC then, sent them on a 12 hour leveling mission ( I have the first 3 pets atm) and then an 11 hour one seems like the best approach and do some clone killing in the last hour.

To your other question UBC, UAC and CBC reset GP stats and rebirth multiplier and you only get the GP stats back.

Other challenges like the DRC only reset your rebirth multiplier and you keep your GP stats, that’s why some people suggest starting DRC when you know you can complete them in under 8 hours or even less time, still I would do some (5 to 10) early on for a small but steady total might increase.

Challenges like the Ultimate universe or the black hole challenge lets you keep everything.

If you hover over one of your trainings you can see something like “Capped at: 1 Clones” the clone requirements decrease by 1 every 3 minutes and adding more clones than the cap doesn’t help, you keep those caps in all challenges except UAC.

In most cases you will level your pet’s way faster with clones than with the level campaign, without half stats button this requires a bit of micromanagement.

[AzysSilverscale TTV]

training caps are the the caps in your training tab, you needer a certain amount of clones to bb them and u keep that amount

in your DPC u shouldnt do a leveling camp from the beginning, try to train them first and then do multiplier campaigns

[Erik (Meeni)]

Alright, thank you all for the clarifications! This should help me out for the forseeable future if I want to do all the challenges you have all suggested I do :P

[matthias.huisgen]

One last thing to add, before you start a Challlenge that resets your rebirth multiplier do a bunch of quick runs (10 minutes or less) to gain a bit of extra GP.

[Erik (Meeni)]

Originally posted by matthias.huisgen:

One last thing to add, before you start a Challlenge that resets your rebirth multiplier do a bunch of quick runs (10 minutes or less) to gain a bit of extra GP.

I was just thinking if this would be a good idea to do indeed, but I assume I should do that after the DPC and not before right?

[matthias.huisgen]

Originally posted by Erik van L:

Originally posted by matthias.huisgen:

One last thing to add, before you start a Challlenge that resets your rebirth multiplier do a bunch of quick runs (10 minutes or less) to gain a bit of extra GP.

I was just thinking if this would be a good idea to do indeed, but I assume I should do that after the DPC and not before right?

DPC lets you keep everything so after DPC and before UBC.

[Erik (Meeni)]

Originally posted by matthias.huisgen:

Originally posted by Erik van L:

I was just thinking if this would be a good idea to do indeed, but I assume I should do that after the DPC and not before right?

DPC lets you keep everything so after DPC and before UBC.

Perfect, just started the DPC, In those 24h I still attempt to get the highest multiplier possible I presume, in order to make a good setup for the quick runs I will do after the DPC and before attempting the UBC?

[Fel]

More or less, yes, or you could use these 24h as the base and extend it a bit by levelling your divinity generator and making monuments, trying to kill p baal 1, and maybe 2 or 3, giving you a higher multiplier to be able to do 1-3 quick rebirths for GP before the UBC.

EDIT: Although you don't have crystals unlocked yet, remember that beating the UB (planet eater) that spawns every hour grants you half an hour worth of your current divinity gains every time, so it can be of great help to be able to afford the materials for monument upgrades.

On that note too, don't rush to upgrade your planet's level until you have at least a few hundred thousand clones and creation count at a decent level, because it would hurt your crystal production if you can't kill the UBs.

[Erik (Meeni)]

Originally posted by Fel:

More or less, yes, or you could use these 24h as the base and extend it a bit by levelling your divinity generator and making monuments, trying to kill p baal 1, and maybe 2 or 3, giving you a higher multiplier to be able to do 1-3 quick rebirths for GP before the UBC.

EDIT: Although you don't have crystals unlocked yet, remember that beating the UB (planet eater) that spawns every hour grants you half an hour worth of your current divinity gains every time, so it can be of great help to be able to afford the materials for monument upgrades.

On that note too, don't rush to upgrade your planet's level until you have at least a few hundred thousand clones and creation count at a decent level, because it would hurt your crystal production if you can't kill the UBs.

Alright I will do that, I think I will be able to defeat atleast P. baal 1 and maybe even lvl 2.

Thanks alot to everyone for the help, I really appreciate it alot :)

[Camaroz]

Depend on your playstyle, some challenges require pretty heavily micro management, some just leaving it there till you have free time for some clicks.