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ell818dll811 Jun 20, 2017 @ 1:20am
Killer Instinct Arcade 1 and 2 sound issue
Is there anyway at all to fix the sound issue with the startup of these two classics? I know this seems odd and pointless as it doesn't exactly ruin the main game as playable but it's nostalgic to hear the annoucer talk about the Ultra64 and saying KI2 with the awesome theme music building up in the background sad that it's got a sound issue on startup...but the rest of the games seem to be fine.

Edit: Also the music even fades out way to early or certain parts from the music don't play at all for me on both games which is sad since that was one of the major points back in it's arcade days as for it's time that really drew people into the games feels like a piece of history is missing....
Last edited by ell818dll811; Jun 20, 2017 @ 10:33am
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Vermillion Jun 20, 2017 @ 12:14pm 
I know with Killer Instinct 1, the attract music actually doesn't play the first time you boot the hardware. It's just a quirk of the actual game and sadly nothing can be done about it. That being said, if you do wish to hear it, you can enter the setup menu for Killer Instinct by pressing F2 on your keyboard and then exiting the menu. I imagine this applies to the second game as well.

As for the audio fading, I'm not sure what you mean exactly. If you could provide an example that would be nice. It may just be an emulation quirk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt3AS18pQsk
Last edited by Vermillion; Jun 20, 2017 @ 12:55pm
ell818dll811 Jun 20, 2017 @ 2:22pm 
do you have a suggestion how I'd go about doing that with recording the video or anything? to try and explain it better what I mean is basicly as I start to play it will do the music but after a few miniutes the guitar piece disappers but other piece of the music is still there this is the first KI when the bios for the characters come up suddenly the guitar piece disappaers...as for the second game it's not as bad but after awhile even tho it loops if I remember correctly the animated bios all had sounds orginally after the song loops suddenly the characters don't do there voice effects anymore during the bio screen for them
Vermillion Jun 20, 2017 @ 4:02pm 
No need to record the video. I see what you mean now.

With the music fading out after a minute, I think that is entirely by design. Arcades could get pretty loud back then. It's why you see some games with the option of turning off attract audio. With the guitar track, I think the "Killer Instinct" voice is interupting the playback which could either be a bug with the game or with MAME itself. I don't know.

I'll give Killer Instinct 2 a quick look to see what you're describing.

In short, I really think this is just how the games were programmed. I don't think anything can be done.
Last edited by Vermillion; Jun 20, 2017 @ 4:02pm
ell818dll811 Jun 20, 2017 @ 4:06pm 
ah I was checking a youtube video of the KI's attract intro and noticed that it kept playing the theme without the guitar missing so I unless they used a looped MP3 in the background I got curious it's been a long time since I seen that machine lol
ell818dll811 Jun 21, 2017 @ 4:10pm 
So Vermillion did you notice how after awhile the KI2 attract screen completely silent after awhile not even sounds play like they do for some characters it goes completely silent even when it repeats previous character bios that did have sound
Vermillion Jun 21, 2017 @ 4:13pm 
Sorry, been a bit busy today so I forgot about this thread.

I let KI2 play for a bit in a standalone MAME install. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Could you perhaps give me the amount of time it takes until the sound goes quiet? I'm going to try it in NRA:N and see if it happens when I get a chance.
Vermillion Jun 21, 2017 @ 5:25pm 
Gave it a quick look. The audio does indeed fadeout. Like I suggested eariler, I think this is just how the games were programmed.
ell818dll811 Jun 21, 2017 @ 7:45pm 
seems kinda strange if that is indeed the case since it means other characters are not heard during there intro of the bio screen
Vermillion Jun 21, 2017 @ 7:47pm 
I actually hear them before the biography screen. This was done on the mame2015 core.
Last edited by Vermillion; Jun 21, 2017 @ 7:47pm
ell818dll811 Jun 21, 2017 @ 7:56pm 
tried that core just now and yeah this time Tusk could be heard before his bio but after that is when the music seems to cut off then no one else is heard next would be Spinal
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