Thoughts on the demo

[ironmanmk42]

I am a big fan of DBC 14. I thought the game is excellent, well made and very good enjoyment.

I was very surprised to see DBC 17 demo yesterday and so I played it. Here's my impressions -

- overall impression - a little less enthused as I was compared to the first time I played DBC 14 demo with its Santa version and the 99.96 version and what not

- graphics seem subpar. Overall visual fidelity is low compared to DBC 14

- ball physics seem 'odd'. Every single shot I hit - the ball bounces and always spins right, never moves straight. I get that the real ball sometimes does that but here it is doing it everytime

- char moves through the stumps routinely which tbh I expect to not be so.

- char doesn't hold pose once shot is done

- default wide arc swinging camera seems nice initially but got a bit annoying later on for some reason.

- shot feedback was a bit laughable - I missed a square shot attempt for a ball down leg and it was all green

- could not hit one six or boundary. Maybe this is a bit more realistic but seems odd. SCG is a large ground but it was insane to not connect even once on Pro and Amateur setting

- Ball markers are nice but also not nice. At least it can be turned off...I hope

- Char cannot move small amounts during run up as I could before? Now he moves once about a foot before the ball is bowled which seems silly. Got bowled so many times because of this

- Edges seemed genuine and nice

- Shot selection sometimes didn't seem to kick in??? I deliberately selected cover drive to a ball down leg and he still hit it towards mid wicket.


I will definitely buy this game and support this developer who made a great cricket game already. But I would like many things to be better and improve on the excellent DBC 14.

[Dr. Dee]

It's a beta. It is getting updated regularly between now and release...so everything will improve The graphics will far exceed DBC14....the SCG already looks stunning. Don't expect everything to be final in this beta. So things like the batter walking through the stumps, missing animations, camera options etc. will get fixed...there is no way that BA aren't aware of any of these things. They have the beta out for people to give it a try and provide feedback on how things are going with the overall feel of the controls and interpreting the UI.

I admit it would be nice, with each update, to get a few pointers from BA as to what they are specifically looking for feedback on...because that would stop us posting about things they already know about and they have plans to get fixed as the releases roll out.

So for instance, there is no ball marker in DBC17...but it is easy to think that there is at first glance. What you think is a ball marker is, in fact, a target for nets and practice only. It has no affect on the delivery...it is just something for you to aim at if you want to practice hitting a particular spot with certain deliveries. So if you want to practice bowling back of a length outside off stump, put the target there and it provides you feedback on how close you got with your delivery.

I've found the batting a lot better than DBC14 even in the current beta. I'm not sure that trying to play a cover drive to a ball going down legside should be possible. It's not just the shot you select that counts but the selection in the context of the delivery....if you can cover drive a legside ball, it would make setting a field and bowling a line largely irrelevant.

Anyway, keep an eye out for updates on Fridays and I'm sure the whole thing will coalesce into a thing of brilliance by December.

[ironmanmk42]

Well, technically this is a demo, not a beta. There is a difference between beta - which is an unfinished product bound to change vs a demo - which fundamentally means a small sample of the final product to entice you to buy the whole thing.

Granted they're likely using these interchangeably but I want to point out that the demo and beta are different concepts really.

Lets see what the updates bring. So far it is not as appealing as DBC 14 which was superb right from the demo/beta.

If it ignores my input for cover drive and does its own correction for ball going down leg, then it is the AI playing for me and not me playing which is not what I want at all.

Anyways, my post was to provide specific feedback on the demo/beta whatever and judge for myself. As mentioned before, I will buy the product.

I even bought Ashes 13 and did not even refund that. It was a shabby game but a cricket game nonetheless.

[Dr. Dee]

It's definitely a beta...it says so, when you launch it...it is a beta of the demo rather than a demo of the game. Though, I admit, this nuance is easily missed.
I have tried to cover drive also and I don't think it is an issue with the line...I just think it is missing at the moment.

[toxicfiend]

and remember this time i see the bowling is behaving a lot like the bowling in a game does.leg spin IS spinning to leg so much better than 14 one thing i hope they do include is a batsmen to bowl at rather than just the stumps.

[ironmanmk42]

Post latest update, went from 50fps to 24fps and seems locked at 24fps...

Graphics also seem very bleh. Esp compared to DBC 14.

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Originally posted by ironmanmk42:

Well, technically this is a demo, not a beta. There is a difference between beta - which is an unfinished product bound to change vs a demo - which fundamentally means a small sample of the final product to entice you to buy the whole thing.

Granted they're likely using these interchangeably but I want to point out that the demo and beta are different concepts really.

Lets see what the updates bring. So far it is not as appealing as DBC 14 which was superb right from the demo/beta.

If it ignores my input for cover drive and does its own correction for ball going down leg, then it is the AI playing for me and not me playing which is not what I want at all.

Anyways, my post was to provide specific feedback on the demo/beta whatever and judge for myself. As mentioned before, I will buy the product.

I even bought Ashes 13 and did not even refund that. It was a shabby game but a cricket game nonetheless.

i share the same openion mate about buying Cricket games if we buy they will make it for us. big ant really working hard on it to serv cricket fans better . before big ant it was a differet ball game .
all developers made mockery of this wonderfull game now i can say for sure DBC will improve with every update and major release
my best wishes for BIGANT team

[ironmanmk42]

I wouldn't say all developers made mockery of this game. For the state of cricket gaming I've enjoyed many of the past cricket games. EA Cricket 2007 was really good along with BLIC 10 and couple more.

EA made some really good cricket games for its time and I hoped they would continue.

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even with Denuvo no company is interested in developing cricket game

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Originally posted by ironmanmk42:

I wouldn't say all developers made mockery of this game. For the state of cricket gaming I've enjoyed many of the past cricket games. EA Cricket 2007 was really good along with BLIC 10 and couple more.

EA made some really good cricket games for its time and I hoped they would continue.

ea will never make it again as per EA spokesperson in 2009 they will not make any cricket game

[Ludi Burek]

Oooer, when did this sneak onto steam :)

Briefly tried the demo. First thought, batting seems improved. Bowling seems a bit trickier, but in a good way. Overall, it's enticing.

Nice to see people are still offering demos in this era of scamware :)

[76561198327262564]

DBC 17 is a great step as it gives you option to edit and ustomize almost everyting . I mean, the idea is great but I wish BigAnt could've worked upon DBC14, bringing the changes to launch DBC17 coz the gameplay and especially ball physics is much better in DBC14.

[ironmanmk42]

After playing a little bit after a while, I'm completely unimpressed with DBC 17.

- poor graphics quality

- very low fps - ~24fps when the earlier demo version gave me ~50fps on older HW gaming laptop with no changes to graphical settings

- camera is now very annoying - as soon as you hit the shot, the camera cuts away to some long view. I liked it before where it allowed you to see the batsman's follow through and swung nicely around

- almost impossible to hit 4s or 6s (only got 4s because of edges and a lucky 6 once)

- shot selection is ignored many times and it does its own thing

This game is a step backward compared to DBC14 which is THE Cricket game of all time imo

[itstimetorecover]

We really need EA to do this game and do it properly. I can understand that they have a limited budget but db14 was a premium priced product. Upon release it was still far from that. I l paid £50 for the ps4 version and it's awful. At a premium price point one expects a premium product. The last time I tried the db17 demo it was laughable. Graphically it was ludicrous. I'm sorry but I judge a game largely on graphics. Let's hope the full version is an improvement. At least on steam I can get a refund.

[ironmanmk42]

Originally posted by itstimetorecover:

We really need EA to do this game and do it properly. I can understand that they have a limited budget but db14 was a premium priced product. Upon release it was still far from that. I l paid £50 for the ps4 version and it's awful. At a premium price point one expects a premium product. The last time I tried the db17 demo it was laughable. Graphically it was ludicrous. I'm sorry but I judge a game largely on graphics. Let's hope the full version is an improvement. At least on steam I can get a refund.

Actually I disagree on that. DBC 14 was stellar. It is such an amazing cricket game tbh. And I'm not sure what you mean premium price. It is priced like how all other games are priced at $60.

DBC17 demo isn't laughable. It has some issues but it isn't laughable at all. It's ok to judge a game on graphics and yes DBC 17 graphics are below par but the gameplay is still pretty good.

I too like good graphics and it plays a huge part in my decision as well (Else we'd all be playing pong still instead of Rockstar games presents Table Tennis) but DBC 17 isn't terrible as you're making it out to be.

I'll be certainly preordering it (when though???) and will support this developer. They seem like honest people wanting to make a good game. Hopefully they put in really strict anti piracy measures (make pirate game ball a plastic floaty ball or a gigantic soccer ball ;) and make it online only for several years like Diablo 3 to thwart piracy. Or make pirated games "Drunk"... where everything wobbles ;)

[Charliebrownau [HIGH]]

Does the demo support keyboard and mouse ? I cant seem to get past the menu and play, its stuck at press A on the noob pad