Worthy of a Surviving Mars 2?

[skivington96]

Just thought I'd asked because until the last DLC and its issues I really enjoyed this game and have definitely gotten my moneys worth out of it.

[starlight78sso]

I dont know, I have mixed feelings about it. Originally I loved the game, but I've had so many issues I just dont know if I would be willing to sink money into a second one.

[Captain Cosmo]

It deserves a sequel, but not with Paradox publishing it. They have an odd track record of publishing a game, letting it get 3 DLCs, and then that's it. No more tweaks or bug fixes or changes, just done as is. I do like a finish product, and I really think the devs wanted to do more to iron out the issues, but I don't think they're being allowed to do any more with it, not even bug fixes and code streamlining. I would be happy to buy a 2 if it ever comes out, I had a lot of fun with this one, and I hope they get a good publisher for it.

[jkund17]

A sequel would be amazing

[MarQan]

Given that there are basic problems with the game, present since release, I'd say it's hardly only Paradox's fault, and I definitely wouldn't buy a Surviving Mars 2 until this one is fixed.

We have no custom maps (or at least a filter for certain parameters), difficulty is completely front-loaded, DLCs are not properly integrated into the main game, lack of game options. The game doesn't even save your starting parameters, so you have to set everything up from scratch when you start a new game. Breakthroughs are completely imbalanced, and sometimes you get ones that are completely worthless in your game.
There's no custom difficulty either. And so many more issues..

Just look at Choggi's mods (praise be!) to see how many features are missing from the game. And sure, some of those are kind of niche features, but others should've been added to the game with the first patch after release, or at latest the first paid DLC.

The game is amazing on the rare occasions when it works properly for a few consecutive sols. But for me a considerable amount of time was spent trying to make the game work properly, and it fought back at every turn. I do love the idea of Surviving Mars, but the execution is shoddy at best.

SM2 would have to be on the level of BG3 for me to even consider it. Unless it's independent from both Paradox and Heamimont of course. But there's not much chance for either.

[kaki_gamet]

Not to forget about save itself, that merges colony data, terrain data and thumbnail and then apply their own encoding. 30~40 MB for a single save and I have already 1 GB of data, no way to keep them : /

A sequel must be a completely new take, a much better one in almost everything, to be worth and amazing while not DLC-infested. I guess it will never happen anyway -.-

[Mardoin69]

Originally posted by kaki_gamet:

Not to forget about save itself, that merges colony data, terrain data and thumbnail and then apply their own encoding. 30~40 MB for a single save and I have already 1 GB of data, no way to keep them : /

A sequel must be a completely new take, a much better one in almost everything, to be worth and amazing while not DLC-infested. I guess it will never happen anyway -.-

To add with this ...^... (cuz I agree) it wouldn't even be a 'SM 2' cuz it would need to be a different publisher and developer. There are other 'Mars' colonization style games currently but, they're not really comparable to 'SM' so much. I would love to see something very similar to 'SM' though... kind of like a squeakuel to SM... and I'm keeping my eyes peeled for one.

[Happyguy22]

I don't think it's worth it.

Frankly, it was a flawed game from the beginning with little to no end goal - a sequel would add nothing more and would likely just detract. It's not like Per Astra.


That and I have no trust in either the developer or Paradox to even remotely deliver anymore.

[starlight78sso]

Originally posted by Happyguy22:

That and I have no trust in either the developer or Paradox to even remotely deliver anymore.

I dont think it was so much on the original devs as it was on Paradox, Paradox got rid of the devs just after the below & beyond dlc, with out them getting a chance to fix bugs from what I understand.

[Happyguy22]

Originally posted by starlight78sso:

Originally posted by Happyguy22:

That and I have no trust in either the developer or Paradox to even remotely deliver anymore.

I dont think it was so much on the original devs as it was on Paradox, Paradox got rid of the devs just after the below & beyond dlc, with out them getting a chance to fix bugs from what I understand.

Sad to hear, but it's why I have no trust.

[Eldiora]

I really enjoyed this game since the beginning, despite some of its flaws. But I do not think there would really be a point for a part 2. We pretty much got everything that you can think of when surviving and colonizing mars, even terraforming, then asteroids and underground. It would not make much sense to have a Surviving Mars 2 in my view, what would there be left to do? A different game where you survive and colonize different reaches of the solar system? maybe, still Its like Stellaris, what would you even do with a hypothetical Stellaris 2? When Stellaris 1 is already this behemoth of a game.

[n3mes1s]

If made by another company, sure :p but if made by paradox, not in h3ck. Never going to trust em again.

[Earymgn]

I like this idea of making mars green. But it's not a real "end of game" trailer comming. And it seems like the other fractions doesn't care about that too. So I think a Surviving Mars 2 should focus on - how to make mars a place to live on using terraforming. This could also be extended to other planets.

[Blitz4]

If it's handled by another publisher it seems, or that the current publisher is invested in building a community and releasing the game Early Access to have us help point out the issues for them to fix prior to release. Those are both options.

I look at the game's sales. I don't expect it to release a sequel anytime soon.

[bateluer]

Originally posted by Captain Cosmo:

It deserves a sequel, but not with Paradox publishing it. They have an odd track record of publishing a game, letting it get 3 DLCs, and then that's it. No more tweaks or bug fixes or changes, just done as is. I do like a finish product, and I really think the devs wanted to do more to iron out the issues, but I don't think they're being allowed to do any more with it, not even bug fixes and code streamlining. I would be happy to buy a 2 if it ever comes out, I had a lot of fun with this one, and I hope they get a good publisher for it.

SM is the odd man out for Paradox titles. They have a habit of releasing stacks and stacks and stacks of DLC over the course of years. Surviving Mars only got 2 expansions, and a couple minor content packs. And 1 of those expansions, Beyond & Below, was pretty suck. Green Mars was great though. They could have released Mystery Packs for years for Surviving Mars if they'd wanted to.

Would love to see a sequel myself, definitely a lot of potential. Not sure limited to Mars either, adding a custom map/planet generator would be cool.

[Blitz4]

Originally posted by bateluer:

Originally posted by Captain Cosmo:

It deserves a sequel, but not with Paradox publishing it. They have an odd track record of publishing a game, letting it get 3 DLCs, and then that's it. No more tweaks or bug fixes or changes, just done as is. I do like a finish product, and I really think the devs wanted to do more to iron out the issues, but I don't think they're being allowed to do any more with it, not even bug fixes and code streamlining. I would be happy to buy a 2 if it ever comes out, I had a lot of fun with this one, and I hope they get a good publisher for it.

SM is the odd man out for Paradox titles. They have a habit of releasing stacks and stacks and stacks of DLC over the course of years. Surviving Mars only got 2 expansions, and a couple minor content packs. And 1 of those expansions, Beyond & Below, was pretty suck. Green Mars was great though. They could have released Mystery Packs for years for Surviving Mars if they'd wanted to.

Would love to see a sequel myself, definitely a lot of potential. Not sure limited to Mars either, adding a custom map/planet generator would be cool.

Good idea. different planets.

I'd love to see a game like Offworld Trading Company, done using the graphics here in Surviving Mars. Adding competition and direction to a game where you're often playing a sandbox.