Please, do not buy Surving Mars or the dlc Below and Beyond.

[Flofian]

Despite the nice trailer for Below und Beyond I expected a bug-riddled experience, because of the former work of this developer. But I did not expect that a small, free update which only added only one useless building and two features which already where covered by mods completly break the game. I have no faith that the developer will fix it with Mondays Hotfix, or any other Hotfix which may or may not come in near future.
I love Survivng Mars, but this is not acceptable.
Therefore I urge you: do not buy Surviving Mars or any dlc. Try to get a refund and write a negative Steam-Review.
We cannot let the developer get away with this behavior, and the only way this company understand is about money.

[HurtfulPlayer97]

You should at least have waited till Monday to see if they come through...

[Jarp]

This is why they either should’ve kept the game as is without abstraction’s work or have brought haemimont back, which sadly neither is possible at this point

[Regar]

引用自 HurtfulPlayer97：

You should at least have waited till Monday to see if they come through...

maybe just maybe ... dont release half baked bread filled with insects ?

[Flofian]

引用自 HurtfulPlayer97：

You should at least have waited till Monday to see if they come through...

They won't fix the game on Monday. They will propably fix 2-3 minor bugs and will unintentionally add one additional bug. Then they will apologize and promise they will fix it in the next week or two. ...until nobody will care for this game anymore.
We had this with the tourism update, but this time it's much worse.

[YujoKameida]

引用自 Flofian：

引用自 HurtfulPlayer97：

You should at least have waited till Monday to see if they come through...

They won't fix the game on Monday. They will propably fix 2-3 minor bugs and will unintentionally add one additional bug. Then they will apologize and promise they will fix it in the next week or two. ...until nobody will care for this game anymore.
We had this with the tourism update, but this time it's much worse.

or you know jsut let choggi fix it and let choggi reap all of those donations?

[Crossbow]

Surely they were given deliberately impossible deadlines by the publisher's management. As a result, the product was not properly tested and corrected. Stop hating them already! If you do not like the game so much, then you do not need to shout about it at every corner. Better send them bugs on the official forum. As a result, the developer will succeed! Better to move forward and make mistakes than just abandon the game.

[SpookySunday]

Is it possible to refund only the DLC? I don't know how long I played the DLC, since it doesn't get tracked separately.

[Larrynautik]

引用自 SpookyNooky：

Is it possible to refund only the DLC? I don't know how long I played the DLC, since it doesn't get tracked separately.

I tried and Steam refused, as I played more than 2h since the DLC purchase (that's the rule, I don't blame Steam but the developper about that).

[arreclain]

Guys, wait for the patch. The DLC is fine. They'll work it out. There is no reason to set them on fire over it. Give it a week or two. They can't possibly test the new content on every computer setup. That, unfortunately, is where we come in.

[MakAi]

Currently there is only AMD, NVIDIA and Intel the times where there were many manufacturers of hardware are very long gone!

It's never really easier to develop games. Since all other manufacturers are bankrupt.

Paradox simply does not care about the customers who bought this game. No one has tested this DLC. Not one person has taken care that this dlc works flawlessly.

And yes, if I spend 4-5 hours dealing with a game, and then old known errors occur... Then the manufacturer is responsible, especially if he does not do his job.

[Tonatsi]

引用自 arreclain：

Guys, wait for the patch. The DLC is fine. They'll work it out. There is no reason to set them on fire over it. Give it a week or two. They can't possibly test the new content on every computer setup. That, unfortunately, is where we come in.

These aren't hardware and software configuration bugs; these are simply poor coding choices.

Anecdotal proof: Most games paradox owns have the same release cycle of new DLC -> save and game breaking bugs -> multiple weeks before the game is patched -> 1 week of it's manageable with mods while some bugs remain -> new DLC making it worse all over again.
Further Anecdotal proof: thousands of devs with games as large and complex if not more releasing updates and DLCs without breaking literally everything. Take Prison Architect for example. Still broken on larger prisons (as the guards and other NPCs simply get stuck in walls) since i last played before the Island Bound DLC was released.

But I don't blame the devs. I blame paradox. Given the systematic bug-introducing and DLC release rate increase of 1000% It's clear that Paradox are basically telling their devs to work asap, not caring for quality, and removing any playtesting policies for anything that isn't a hard crash, so that they get money from DLCs and screw over the customers.

[Bunks]

引用自 Tonatsi：

These aren't hardware and software configuration bugs; these are simply poor coding choices.

But I don't blame the devs. I blame paradox. Given the systematic bug-introducing and DLC release rate increase of 1000% It's clear that Paradox are basically telling their devs to work asap, not caring for quality, and removing any playtesting policies for anything that isn't a hard crash, so that they get money from DLCs and screw over the customers.

The pattern over that past year is hard to not see anymore. It is because of this behavior, it made me check the games status before buying it.
I wait till monday and see how this plays out. If they don't have a rollback option or a near perfect hotfix, this will probably be my last Paradox game.

[meowmix2034 velk.ca]

Other than so far, only getting a single asteroid - I'm absolutely loving this DLC. The asteroid mining was super cool - bit tricky to get off of it, but I figured it out. Below ground, I didn't do much so far, but it seems promising. Guess I'm lucky....not a single bug, have I hit yet.

[Kalshion]

引用自 HurtfulPlayer97：

You should at least have waited till Monday to see if they come through...

That is asking for people to have patience, and sadly a lot of gamers, do not have that.

[arreclain]

引用自 meowmix2034：

Other than so far, only getting a single asteroid - I'm absolutely loving this DLC. The asteroid mining was super cool - bit tricky to get off of it, but I figured it out. Below ground, I didn't do much so far, but it seems promising. Guess I'm lucky....not a single bug, have I hit yet.

Yeah, I just got back from my first asteroid here today. It was fun having something to do where I actually wanted the game to not be going at it's fastest speed. I'm looking forward to actually building underground now. I got 40 of the new minerals, so that should be enough to start, as a random event gave me 40 earlier.