Schools and Universities

[Flinty Bawbag]

The description of both these buildngs say something along the lines of "... using the latest remote learning techniques" or similar.

Does this mean that people from all domes can use these services without having to leave their own dome if it's elsewhere, or is it bound by the usual rules of not sharing dome services?

I suspect it's limited to the dome it's in as for everything else and the description needs hitting with the change hammer, but I'd like to be sure.

[rav]

i think what it means is that you dont require teachers. has nothing to do with the domes.

[Flinty Bawbag]

Would that not be "remote teaching"? I was under the impression that remote learning meant that the student sits at home, not the teacher :)

What you say makes sense, but it's certainly not what I got from the description given in game

[SketchParker]

I'd also like to know if this is the case. Is there any resources we can be pointed to that say whether or not the schools or universities serve colonists in same dome and adjacent dome, or if dome's don't matter?

Lots of talk of domes. I'm Doug Dimmidome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmidome

[Ericus1]

Universities 100% only serve colonists in the same dome, or in domes directly linked to it with a passage following normal passage rules. They are still handled like jobs following all the normal job mechanics.

The flavor text may be a little deceptive. In my mind the implication was that you were using remote learning sitting in your apartment in the dome without having to actually be in a classroom at the school or university, but they still have max class sizes which is each "shift".

[NotThatHarkness]

I always assumed that "remote learning techniques" meant that the teachers were on Earth and there was no staff to the schools or universities. I thought the description was fine until this thread.

A university is just another job and should follow normal job rules about domes and passages. I'm not sure about schools; I usually build child domes and match nursery housing and school capacity (and playground capacity) with a food depot outside.

[Ericus1]

Yeah, that was always going to be my interpretation as well if not for the "Interplanetary Learning" breakthrough, because the breakthrough implies that before then you weren't learning from Earth.

Schools don't work like jobs though, since you aren't "producing" anything. They do in the sense that there is a fixed capacity and children attend them in shifts like a job, but they don't result in anything other than getting one of those selected traits if they are in a school when they become youths, so yeah you always want to try and match the numbers.

For Universities, there's actually a point pool the colonists contributes their "work" into and a fixed number they have to contribute to actually get a specialization, with performance actually affecting how many points they contribute each shift, so it functions exactly like a job. Same thing with Sanatariums and flaw fixing by the way.

[Jam292]

Remote learning for schools makes sense for most of the game. It would be a huge burden to transport school teachers to Mars for at least a whole generation. but late game when the Martian colony is a millennia old or more, with each sol extrapolated to a Martian year, it makes little sense. Also, Universities should employ Martian professional and even seniors. It makes almost no sense to have professionals educated remotely to Earth standards when professionals with real Martian experience are right there.

[Jon_Smith]

I mean just use your brain abit.
The school only has kids in it, none of your martians are used to staff it and teach the kids, so who is teaching them? Only explanation is, pre-recorded videos, remote teachers from Earth or... robots?

With the University you can zoom in and see them sitting in a lecture theatre type thing watching a big screen.

I think the explanation that makes sense is the teachers are remote.

The idea that its 'remote learning' vs 'remote teaching' is just semantics.
If the martians are joining a university class existing on Earth then it is remote learning as they are remoting in from a different location, it doesn't need to be their own house.

[Mardoin69]

Also, from my experience.....any connected dome to the one with a school / university can make use of the school. But, the students will want to move into that dome. So, if you have an apartment complex within that dome, you can expect students to be moving into it to attend school. If you don't have living space, I believe they will still attend.....just doing a commute from their living quarter's dome. Not sure but, they might take a comfort penalty for having to travel 'to work' same as person's going to a job.

[SkiRich]

Originally posted by Mardoin69:

Also, from my experience.....any connected dome to the one with a school / university can make use of the school. But, the students will want to move into that dome. So, if you have an apartment complex within that dome, you can expect students to be moving into it to attend school. If you don't have living space, I believe they will still attend.....just doing a commute from their living quarter's dome. Not sure but, they might take a comfort penalty for having to travel 'to work' same as person's going to a job.

Comfort no, performance penalty yes. The school is under the hood, a workplace.
The student gets "fired" from University, with a degree.
Read up on the mechanics of how graduation works here, oh and stop answering 3 year old posts ...

For those interested in how colonists earn their specialty see this discussion note -=> Game Graduation Times
For those interested in how specialists graduate see this discussion -=> Specialist Graduation Selection

[Mardoin69]

I wasn't "answering a 3 year old post." Except for the original creation of the post and the first couple responses, everyone's comments are all recent. Read the timestamps. What....you think I actually dig up a post multiple pages deep just to necro it? I don't even open a post unless it's in the first couple pages and highlighted as a new response. But, thanks for clarifying the penalty type.

[SkiRich]

Originally posted by Mardoin69:

I wasn't "answering a 3 year old post." Except for the original creation of the post and the first couple responses, everyone's comments are all recent. Read the timestamps. What....you think I actually dig up a post multiple pages deep just to necro it? I don't even open a post unless it's in the first couple pages and highlighted as a new response. But, thanks for clarifying the penalty type.

It was tongue in cheek since I did it myself.