Selling

[StarNate]

So, updates need to start including selling other resources back to earth, OF COURSE not at the 1 value per unit like rich minerals, but sell conrete back at .1 unit, normal metals at .5 or something. I see the elements already taken from Planet Base, so may as well ad selling more products back, of course restricting some resources from selling still.

[Ogami]

Well the problem is why should they buy it? The price for the stuff is so high when you buy it on Earth because it has to be transported by rocket. That does not change if you go from Mars to Earth instead. Also concrete and metal is available for very cheap in large quantities on Earth.
It would make zero sense importing them from Mars, the costs will still be way higher then mining them of Earth because of the distance and the inconvenience of rocket transports.

The rare metals make sense because its material that is not available on Earth or just in very small quantities.

I would not mind if they add a few other commodities to sell on Earth though, maybe some sort of Mars crystal or similar. Lets see what the DLC will bring in the future.

[StarNate]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Well the problem is why should they buy it? The price for the stuff is so high when you buy it on Earth because it has to be transported by rocket. That does not change if you go from Mars to Earth instead. Also concrete and metal is available for very cheap in large quantities on Earth.
It would make zero sense importing them from Mars, the costs will still be way higher then mining them of Earth because of the distance and the inconvenience of rocket transports.

The rare metals make sense because its material that is not available on Earth or just in very small quantities.

I would not mind if they add a few other commodities to sell on Earth though, maybe some sort of Mars crystal or similar. Lets see what the DLC will bring in the future.

Yeah, we I totally get where' you'rwe coming from. Other comoddoties, like say, the rare stuff we find in exploration missions, maybe add deposits of those to be mines. (like have a general resource mine option for rarities found).

[DeadlyKitten]

You are a space company that mines resources from another planet.
Everyone should want to buy them. Really surprised its not in the game.
The game is really light on management.

[Ri0Rdian]

Originally posted by Koopsy:

You are a space company that mines resources from another planet.
Everyone should want to buy them. Really surprised its not in the game.
The game is really light on management.

This is not that far into future that people would want to buy metal, concrete, polymers or anything made out of them for Earth. Rare metals are kinda precious that is why you ship them back.

They should have included some Mars only resource and their processing to be shipped back to Earth. Like He3.

Shipping is a major cost so if you want to be realistic you can't ship back basic things. If you just want a game without much thought put into it, that is another matter and might easily be done.

[Atlas is]

Well it would actually makes sense lore wise. Some of the radio report actually hint that things aren't that great on earth right now.

[rav]

yeah let me buy a ton of iron from mars for 10 billion instead of exploiting earth's ressources for a few thousand dollars, totally makes sense

[Straph]

Originally posted by rav:

yeah let me buy a ton of iron from mars for 10 billion instead of exploiting earth's ressources for a few thousand dollars, totally makes sense

The problem with exploiting earth's resources is that there is only so much iron to be mined before you damage a location permenantly. There are cleanup costs, and many other costs to consider. See largest mine in the world in China, that is permanently damage land that can't be used... ever! There is also the mining cost, which is expensive per ton mined. Right now iron is worth $70 per ton of Ore (not purified into solid iron). If I caught an astroid that was 100% iron and minded it right outside of earth and sold the Iron to earth I'd be a trillionare! Why, because the cost to mine the astroid in space would be so much cheaper than on earth, rockets and people costs included. Even if I crashed the Iron market on earth iron would become available for everything for stupid cheap. A 30 meter astroid could be worth 20~50 billion if it wasn't just iron. So sending materials back from Mars would be stupid lucrative as well. They say rare metals go for 750 million per load and I totally disagree with that. As the pay load is around 70,000kg per rocket I would set the price for rare metals to be closer to 3.5 billion if it was say platinum. Roughly $50,000 per kilo as all mining operations would stop on earth due to the costs involved in mining vs just buying it. Most companies mine platinum out of need, not desire. Plus it would become availible for more markets so the price would increase a bit as the demand increased short term, then as you send back loads the price would slowly decrease as you crash the platinum market roughly pulling in 1 billion per load after 50 loads or so. Needless to say luaching an unmanned rocket from Mars to earth and back would be really cheap. Thanks to Elon Musk. You'd spend about 10% of your profits mining, and transporting it. A load of Iron might go for 750 million for 70,000 KG but rare metals would be a cash cow. Again the first trillionare will be an astroid miner.

[Astasia]

The cost of fuel required to lift an empty rocket out of Earth's atmosphere is far higher than the value of iron or concrete you could fill that rocket with. Your sponser is not going to send you empty rockets to fill with garbage and send back to sell for a trivial amount of cash.

[StarNate]

Originally posted by Zeva Atlas having a good time.:

Well it would actually makes sense lore wise. Some of the radio report actually hint that things aren't that great on earth right now.

Stop rotting your brain with Infowars trash. Ffs, have some damn self respect and dignity.

[Nox]

Actually if you had the space elevator you could basically send stuff back to earth free. Assuming earth had a space elevator too, you could just attach a dedicated steering module to the cargo and slingshot it to earth, where it would get caught and pulled down with earth's space elevator.

That should be another benefit of the space elevator - being able to sell resources because if not my whole map is going to be stockpiles of metal and concrete.

[Name Lips]

Would YOU buy concrete made on Mars for ten times the price of the regular concrete at the hardware store?

[Ri0Rdian]

They should add in a new building: Refinement Factory. It would take in Metal or Concrete and produce Helium 3 to be shipped back to Earth and it should pay more than Rare Metals.

[Atlas is]

Originally posted by StarNate:

Originally posted by Zeva Atlas having a good time.:

Well it would actually makes sense lore wise. Some of the radio report actually hint that things aren't that great on earth right now.

Stop rotting your brain with Infowars trash. Ffs, have some damn self respect and dignity.

They are turning the fricking frogs gay!