Is it Just Me?

[Rehtaelle]

I really want to believe that this game isn't bad. I want to say that it's just me doing something wrong, but I'm not seeing any evidence of that. I'm experimenting, trying different options, different approaches, but there's no ignoring that any gun which isn't a shotgun is just bad, dashing has a delay to it (if it works at all), the chain-dash only works when it feels like it, the game stutters every time you hit an enemy, it goes into really annoying slow motion at seemingly random, the hit detection compared to the VFX is iffy as hell, the Ruiner kill opportunities are painfully inconsistent, enemies *sometimes* get staggered when you hit them, but sometimes they just don't care, you get animation-locked more than is reasonable, melee upgrades break almost instantly, and is it just me or do the bosses blink through you without warning and deal a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of damage? There are times when it feels like I'm close to winning this fight, but then the boss teleports directly behind me and I just explode.

Is there seriously something I'm doing wrong? I've tried being evasive and patient, I've tried being aggressive, I've tried relying on ranged attacks, I've tried using abilities to create opportunities, I've tried using environmental hazards, I've tried using fire DoT then switching to direct damage, I've tried going for controlled dashes with hit-and-run attacks, and nothing seems to be working out. I'm playing on hard and stubbornly refusing to back down to normal, so I'm sure that's not helping, but surely hard mode isn't ♥♥♥♥-you levels of hard, right?

[Rehtaelle]

Just had to restart a level because approaching a chest caused me to fall into an area that I couldn't leave from. It's not *that* big a deal, but it's not helping improve my impressions...

EDIT: Aaaaaaaaaand I just got to the very end of a level, but it bugged out and now I can't interact with anything, including the elevator to leave... So not only am I fighting against controls that feel like I'm playing with someone on a different continent, but the game is bugging out to the point where it just undid an entire level... I might be done with this thing. I tried to push through to get my 5 bucks' worth, but I feel like this is a lost cause.

[vokiel]

I have the exact same experience. All skills are lagged or delayed intentionally and that makes everything more difficult, because you never use them. Whenever you're close to an enemy anything but the shotgun will miss, again intentionally. So I've reverted to use the sledge hammer in most situations.

It's not just that, I can't re-adjust my mouse sensitivity in this game. It purposely slows it down so I can't target efficiently.

Another failure from Devolver imho. They can't seem to make their games difficult without crippling them.

[Rehtaelle]

Originally posted by vokiel:

Another failure from Devolver imho. They can't seem to make their games difficult without crippling them.

You know Devolver is just the publisher, right? They have nothing to do with the game's development. And personally this is the only Devolver title I've played so far that I disliked.

[vokiel]

Publishers are still responsible to validate games they publish and avoid these kind of issues.

[Outism]

i feel tempted to just say git gud but i've encountered some issues too. once i was stuck and my wasd keys would not make me move so i had to kill myself purposely in what would have otherwise been a no death run on that level. i disagree with you about shottys. in my experience everything that is shotty or a hold-to-fire before firing is just down bad (except for the sub zero with which i cheesed my way through bogdan). i too play only on hard. i just bash my way with just melee dash and shield but for trafficking in his lair i had to change up the strat; new strat was take out all points from shield and other skills and blow it all on gun use, the overdrive skill i forgor the name of and dash. then i just used the ruiner gun and overdrive all the time to hit the generator thingys without getting hit and then switched to melee once i could harm him and spammed the hell out of him. i beat him with ease using this strat. so you cant say that the game is poorly designed or anything i think it's good as it stands. that's all i have to say for now.

[Rehtaelle]

Originally posted by Fan de Evangelion:

i feel tempted to just say git gud but i've encountered some issues too. once i was stuck and my wasd keys would not make me move so i had to kill myself purposely in what would have otherwise been a no death run on that level. i disagree with you about shottys. in my experience everything that is shotty or a hold-to-fire before firing is just down bad (except for the sub zero with which i cheesed my way through bogdan). i too play only on hard. i just bash my way with just melee dash and shield but for trafficking in his lair i had to change up the strat; new strat was take out all points from shield and other skills and blow it all on gun use, the overdrive skill i forgor the name of and dash. then i just used the ruiner gun and overdrive all the time to hit the generator thingys without getting hit and then switched to melee once i could harm him and spammed the hell out of him. i beat him with ease using this strat. so you cant say that the game is poorly designed or anything i think it's good as it stands. that's all i have to say for now.

My game broke right before the Trafficking fight and I couldn't be bothered to do it all over again. I've got many other games in my library that don't feel like I'm bashing my head against a wall, some of which are arguably harder than this one.

[Outism]

Originally posted by Rehtaelle:

Originally posted by Fan de Evangelion:

i feel tempted to just say git gud but i've encountered some issues too. once i was stuck and my wasd keys would not make me move so i had to kill myself purposely in what would have otherwise been a no death run on that level. i disagree with you about shottys. in my experience everything that is shotty or a hold-to-fire before firing is just down bad (except for the sub zero with which i cheesed my way through bogdan). i too play only on hard. i just bash my way with just melee dash and shield but for trafficking in his lair i had to change up the strat; new strat was take out all points from shield and other skills and blow it all on gun use, the overdrive skill i forgor the name of and dash. then i just used the ruiner gun and overdrive all the time to hit the generator thingys without getting hit and then switched to melee once i could harm him and spammed the hell out of him. i beat him with ease using this strat. so you cant say that the game is poorly designed or anything i think it's good as it stands. that's all i have to say for now.

My game broke right before the Trafficking fight and I couldn't be bothered to do it all over again. I've got many other games in my library that don't feel like I'm bashing my head against a wall, some of which are arguably harder than this one.

what do you mean it broke? crash? i run ruiner on a rather weak pc at a very low res and low graphic settings but even that hasnt happened to me

[Rehtaelle]

Originally posted by Fan de Evangelion:

what do you mean it broke? crash? i run ruiner on a rather weak pc at a very low res and low graphic settings but even that hasnt happened to me

I was suddenly unable to interact with any objects in the world.

[Outism]

Originally posted by Rehtaelle:

Originally posted by Fan de Evangelion:

what do you mean it broke? crash? i run ruiner on a rather weak pc at a very low res and low graphic settings but even that hasnt happened to me

I was suddenly unable to interact with any objects in the world.

big oof right there

[Earthbound_X]

Interesting, just finished the game on the Series X, and I had none of those issues at all, no input delays and such. I admit the shooting and aiming sometimes felts weird at the start, but I got used to it.

Quite a good game I thought.

[topgun43]

Get Good....:)

[⸸ Neon Dog ⛧]

Yeah I'm not liking it as much as I thought I would. Just gonna finish it because it is short.
Aesthetics and sound = 10/10
Gameplay: not enjoying it

[Outism]

it do be like that

[Anderson]

I can't like it either. It's too frustrating to have a bunch of things happening at the same time to the point of harming the game itself. I also don't like the controls on the shoot/hit system.

Or am I the one who hasn't figured out how to play yet, which is quite likely.

I'll try to close 100% but it's not a game that held me like Hades.

It's strange because the game has a lot of potential, but it has something that causes constant discomfort. I still haven't been able to find exactly what.

There is also the tiredness of the cyberpunk theme due to the nonsense of people like Francis Fukuyama with his end of history, and the cyberpunk future imagined in the 1980s/90s that basically arrived is smartphones, social networks and a lot of exploration of work and data to the point of to manipulate wars and the destruction of any notion of society and state in favor of castes defined by income concentration. Real cyberpunk is not futuristic, it's basically neofeudalism and consumption towards its own self-destruction using myths like the self-entrepreneur.

[Outism]

that last paragraph is cool and all but it feels like quite a stretch of a tangent