RUINER
Is it possible to get a helmet like the main character's in real life?
It is pretty similar to daft punk's helmet and I believe that is real, so can you get something like that in real life? What I mean is a helmet with a programable LED screen that covers the face and can display moving text, but that you can still see out of.
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Originally posted by Yankee:
Maybe? I mean, you could probably construct it. I don't know how visibility would be. Probably poor if you have any at all. Unless you spaced out a slit for the eyes.

But I'm not sure screens like that are commercially avaiable. In fact, I'm almost certain they're not. But hell, I could be wrong. It'd probably be expensive. We have that reprogammable fabric stuff or whatever it is that shows different designs. I have no idea how costly they are though.

Worst case scenario is you could probaably hardwire an array of LEDs that line up with what the mask says in one instance, for example, the "WE WERE NEVER FRIENDS" and that'd be your permanent screen. You could, however, do a very rudimentary reprogrammable mask if you used a ton of individual LEDs rather than, say, an actual screen. Then you could totally do what you're looking for. But not with the visual clarity of the game's mask. It'd be more like a scrolling marquee.

And as far as that all goes, you'd have to accomadate for power and wiring. The mask would either be bulky or you'd be packing some wires down your shirt.

I imagine this is for cosplay purposes? Halloween?

Now you've piqued my interest.
I mean I just think the helmet looks cool and even if I am not doing a daft punk or ruiner cosplay, I still think it would be cool to wear to a rave or something
Mr. Boombastic Sep 28, 2017 @ 8:10pm 
Originally posted by Punished_Penguini:
It is pretty similar to daft punk's helmet and I believe that is real, so can you get something like that in real life? What I mean is a helmet with a programable LED screen that covers the face and can display moving text, but that you can still see out of.

I second this. Would totally buy one if they were available somewhere. I'm nowhere near smart enough to make one for myself :( I always thought Wrench from Watchdogs 2 had a cool LED mask too
Originally posted by Yankee:
I mean I just think the helmet looks cool and even if I am not doing a daft punk or ruiner cosplay, I still think it would be cool to wear to a rave or something

Yeah, I'd agree. I do wonder where the Devs got their inspiration for it.
perhaps the techno duo Daft Punk? I mean when I first saw the store page for the game, my first thought was daft punk.

here is some more info. https://www.thedaftclub.com/features/a-visual-history-of-daft-punks-helmets/
Originally posted by Mr. Boombastic:
Originally posted by Punished_Penguini:
It is pretty similar to daft punk's helmet and I believe that is real, so can you get something like that in real life? What I mean is a helmet with a programable LED screen that covers the face and can display moving text, but that you can still see out of.

I second this. Would totally buy one if they were available somewhere. I'm nowhere near smart enough to make one for myself :( I always thought Wrench from Watchdogs 2 had a cool LED mask too
I am in the same boat. Building one myself would be outta my skill set
Originally posted by Yankee:
Originally posted by Punished_Penguini:
I am in the same boat. Building one myself would be outta my skill set
To tell you the truth, it's not really that hard. Or at least, learning the fundemental concepts necessary to do it in rudimentary form. Boolean logic, logic gates and loading, rather basic wiring.

I'm not saying it'd be easy to make the mask look good, but you could definitely make a scrolling marquee with the mask's face if you just paced it out. I'd have to dig up the resources I've used over the past few years, but I could probably offer a good starting point.
I appreciate the offer, but I know for a fact I won't actually end up doing anything with it right now, so I am going to have to decline your offer.
ULTRA Sep 28, 2017 @ 8:24pm 
It almost looks beyond just an "LED" display (i.e. an LED-backlit display with LCD transistors). I suppose it could also be incredibly tiny futuristic LEDs. But mainly it just looks like it might be some transparent material with a projector hitting it, somehow. For an example, see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=99lGrA6fZsI

It might also be achieveable using the flexible displays that have been proposed lately for handheld devices.
Originally posted by Mountain Man:
It almost looks beyond just an "LED" display (i.e. an LED-backlit display with LCD transistors). I suppose it could also be incredibly tiny futuristic LEDs. But mainly it just looks like it might be some transparent material with a projector hitting it, somehow. For an example, see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=99lGrA6fZsI

It might also be achieveable using the flexible displays that have been proposed lately for handheld devices.
i see.
NekoApocalypse Sep 28, 2017 @ 9:38pm 
Technically possible, but I don't think it's available on the market.
Also, given the low resolution I tend to believe it's a LED display.
L3xiE Sep 29, 2017 @ 12:44am 
If you want helmets like that, watch this space. They are getting grabbed pretty fast though. http://5060.bigcartel.com/

Without the LED stuff though.
Last edited by L3xiE; Sep 29, 2017 @ 12:44am
Originally posted by L3xiE:
If you want helmets like that, watch this space. They are getting grabbed pretty fast though. http://5060.bigcartel.com/

Without the LED stuff though.
I see
Thanks.
ULTRA Sep 29, 2017 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by NekoApocalypse:
Technically possible, but I don't think it's available on the market.
Also, given the low resolution I tend to believe it's a LED display.

It does appear to be made up of a bunch of filaments, but looking closely -

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PglN1sz_NKg/maxresdefault.jpg

- you can see the image and its resolution are actually independent of them. It's like a fencing mask or something with an image projected from the inside.
Fraggoth Sep 29, 2017 @ 7:11am 
As far as being able to see through the mask is concerned, I urge you to look up some images for various Japanese Tokusatsu heroes, such as Kamen Rider, Ultraman, and various Sentai shows, paying special attention to the masks. There are some REALLY neat tricks used to make those viable for the suit-actors (on top of the suit actors themselves being very skilled at their craft, including being able to move around with dramatically reduced ability to see in some cases). Some of the eyeholes are incredibly subtle, and you'd be amazed at how convincingly "solid" a see-through mesh can look like from the outside.

The first difficulty I'd see for visibility is having enough holes through whatever material the LEDs are mounted on to actually see through without breaking up the LED fixture patterns. Note that I'm assuming for Cosplay purposes you would in fact be using LEDs as opposed to some sort of bending LCD screen or what-have-you. I could definitely see "hacking" together a more planar arrangement, set up like a Dodecahedron or buckyball or something, utilizing a number of flat panels with LEDs mounted. It wouldn't be as nicely rounded as RUINER's, but it would have the same general effect as well as (I'd think) being somewhat easier to build.

I don't know if that setup would be harder or easier to program (in terms of the LED displays) than a single, integrated, wrap-around display. You might even have more wiggle-room between the LEDs (to see through) if you're mounting them on, like, a styrofoam helmet on a more individual basis (then covering it with, what, a stocking? To get that covered look).
Originally posted by Fraggoth:
As far as being able to see through the mask is concerned, I urge you to look up some images for various Japanese Tokusatsu heroes, such as Kamen Rider, Ultraman, and various Sentai shows, paying special attention to the masks. There are some REALLY neat tricks used to make those viable for the suit-actors (on top of the suit actors themselves being very skilled at their craft, including being able to move around with dramatically reduced ability to see in some cases). Some of the eyeholes are incredibly subtle, and you'd be amazed at how convincingly "solid" a see-through mesh can look like from the outside.

The first difficulty I'd see for visibility is having enough holes through whatever material the LEDs are mounted on to actually see through without breaking up the LED fixture patterns. Note that I'm assuming for Cosplay purposes you would in fact be using LEDs as opposed to some sort of bending LCD screen or what-have-you. I could definitely see "hacking" together a more planar arrangement, set up like a Dodecahedron or buckyball or something, utilizing a number of flat panels with LEDs mounted. It wouldn't be as nicely rounded as RUINER's, but it would have the same general effect as well as (I'd think) being somewhat easier to build.

I don't know if that setup would be harder or easier to program (in terms of the LED displays) than a single, integrated, wrap-around display. You might even have more wiggle-room between the LEDs (to see through) if you're mounting them on, like, a styrofoam helmet on a more individual basis (then covering it with, what, a stocking? To get that covered look).
Will do.
piecewise66 Sep 29, 2017 @ 9:08am 
Well, the simplist method of construction would be this:

1. The display could be either a flexible OLED screen laid across the surface of the helmet or a regular LED set up like seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDraeBy1xPQ. Its mostly a question of resolution, since normal LED displays in odd shapes are limited by the size of the indvidual diodes and how closely they can be packed.

2.For visuals, there's no real reason to have to rely on eye holes or a clear mesh when you could simply stud the external section of the helmet with small cameras and display what they see on screens internally. The mask is smooth and rounded, meaning there is a fair amoutn of space in around the eyes. Think about the modern VR goggles and instead of displaying a computer program, they simply displayed visuals from external cameras.

3.The display would have to be hooked up to some manner of control board or computer to function. Most likely it would involve some sort of series of preset images or displays that could be selected or cycled through via a hand control or perhaps voice commands from inside the mask. Even a speech to text might be possible. Of course it would all require a fair deal of personalized software or at least clever combinations of existing software.

In all, the mask seems possible with current tech but quite a difficult and specific project. It would also more than likely be larger and more cumbersome than what is shown in the game. The Daft Punk masks are actually fairly simply in comparison because their resolutions are far lower and the complexity of the displayed images is lower as well.
K. Constantine Sep 29, 2017 @ 9:25am 
@Yankee

Just make it a fine grid/mesh with LEDs, you get perfect visibility and breathability.
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