How is Super Cloudbuilt different from the regular Cloudbuilt?

[Danger Squirrel]

Cloudbuilt is on sale and I want to know if the "Super" version is a sequel or just the same game with more levels.

[Gafgar]

Super is a bottom up remake. Most levels have big overhauls, others completely remade, some new ones, more endings. But even bigger are the changes to gameplay, as both the movement mechanics and combat mechanics have been redesigned and the physics engine replaced. The art has been reworked everywhere as well. More details and better and more dynamic shading, but with better performance.
Also a big thing is that ranked modes has been separated from the story campaign, and instead of just a level select, there is now an expanding hub world and the addition of powerups and more collectables in levels in the story mode.
That is the brief explanation at least :)

[Starlit]

It plays quite differently. If I was recommending to a new player who hadn't played either, I'd say super based on the better introduction levels/skill curve and the mechanics being better overall imo.

I can get specific here if you want but if you're new this will probably be lost slightly in translation.

The main drawing point of the original to me is the level editor but the super game has plenty to keep you going for a start.

Casual first playthrough will probably take between 8 and 30 hours depending on how you hard you push and how good you are. Same applies to both games. Huge range I know but it's a tough game and if you aren't trying to beat it and get done, it allows quite a bit of exploring

There's some bonus levels to unlock and ranked/rush mode available after that.

[Danger Squirrel]

Cool, sounds good! Is the story the same between the two though?

[Wobs23]

Originally posted by Danger Squirrel:

Cool, sounds good! Is the story the same between the two though?

It's the same story as the original, but it's told much better in SCB I would say.

[Useless]

Originally posted by Starlit:

It plays quite differently. If I was recommending to a new player who hadn't played either, I'd say super based on the better introduction levels/skill curve and the mechanics being better overall imo.

I can get specific here if you want but if you're new this will probably be lost slightly in translation.

The main drawing point of the original to me is the level editor but the super game has plenty to keep you going for a start.

Casual first playthrough will probably take between 8 and 30 hours depending on how you hard you push and how good you are. Same applies to both games. Huge range I know but it's a tough game and if you aren't trying to beat it and get done, it allows quite a bit of exploring

There's some bonus levels to unlock and ranked/rush mode available after that.

wait so.... super is easier/casual? more noob friendly? which is better? im about to buy regular but then saw super.... which shoudl i get if i can only get one? i like fast gameplay, clustertruck was amazing. which is better and less broken up by combat

[Starlit]

Super isn't significantly easier, items in story mode do allow for simplification of levels in a way not available in og but those are optional. Super has also done a slightly better job of closing the gap between early levels and later levels imo.

Combat comes 2nd to platforming in both games on most levels.

I'd personally recommend super to the first time player but there's an argument for original in terms of level choice and mechanics preference.

[Real]

I think that OP question was actually: "is Cloudbuilt included in Super Cloudbuilt", in terms of content. It seems that the answer is 'Yes". Am I right?

I have both games in my wishlist, so after reading this thread, I think that I will buy only Super Cloudbuilt instead of both. I don't want to play an improved version of a game that I've already played.

[DoubleOSpanky]

Slightly necro'd thread, but whatev's.
'Real', I'd say generally speaking, yes, the general Cloudbuilt experience is included in Super Cloudbuilt. If a new player to the series is looking to play one or the other only, I'd recommend Super Cloudbuilt. This is generally due to its polish and wider accessibility (but that doesn't mean easier). Super eases you in a little more slowly and gives you options to lower the difficulty (via repeatable-collectible one time power-ups) if you really need it.

OG Cloudbuilt does have its unique offerings. The game mainly has a very different feeling in terms of its movement physics/mechanics. I'd say the original feels "heavier" and more prone to physics exploitation. There are also distinct design changes when it comes to presentation and levels outright. Some levels are slightly tweaked, others have entirely different sections. The first real level is actually completely different between the two games. Other differences include story presentation and dialogue (minor changes). Music is also mixed differently (same music, slightly different remaster). One of the best features to miss from the original is steam workshop support, but Super Cloudbuilt will give a new player plenty to chew on.

The best analogy I can think of right now is drinking water from the tap. The original Cloudbuilt is like drinking straight from the tap. Super Cloudbuilt is more ilke drinking water from the tap but with a home filter on your faucet. The tap water will pour very quickly and have a more raw and saltier taste. The filtered water will probably taste a bit smoother and pour a little slower. Most people will probably say the filtered water is more sastifying to drink, but others might prefer the quick and raw taste from the tap. At the end of the day though, you're generally drinking the same water.

There are things about the orginal I appreciate (and perhaps even slightly prefer in terms of subtle design taste), but overall, I enjoy Super Cloudbuilt more thoroughly. Super has more levels, polish, and it's just a dang fun game. You can't go wrong getting it.

Hope this helps! ^_^

[Gafgar]

hehe :D Well, if that home filter also adds some new story + endings + entirely new levels, a lot of new skins, extra things to look for when exploring levels, a new weapon that changes things quite a bit for both pro level players and beginners :) and so on.

Btw, the music is a bit more than just a remaster, some tracks have two version in the new game, or been extended, but also, there are now live recorded instruments for some tracks, which to me at least is an awesome upgrade made possible by Lincke and his musician friends :)

Not to also mention smaller things that make it a lot easier. Like being able to have multiple story saves profiles in the same save file. Which was not possible in the old game, making things a lot more tougher when it came to some skins and achievements and similar´things.


Thanks for trying to explain it in a simple way though. And I agree, that for a new player, this is the version to play. Unless you really like this one and want to see where it started, or have played all the content in this one, including all the secret and hidden levels, and really just want more so the custom levels in the old one can give you that, there should be no real reason to play the original. We wanted this to be the definitive version for new players in every way possible, and we also tried to add new things and twists to make it interesting for returning players as well

[FrogTSB]

What about the defiance DLC for the original? Is that included as part of Super?

[DoubleOSpanky]

Yes GammaGoblin. All of the Defiance DLC in the orginal Cloudbuilt is part of Super Cloudbuilt. There are even more levels in Super Cloudbuilt on top of that.