Empires of the Undergrowth

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The Real GOW Aug 1, 2023 @ 10:00am
Is it best to build lots of fighting ants or to upgrade the fighting ants?
What do you guys think the best idea to do would be? trying to do 1.1 on insane and challange mode but keep losing all my ants and running out of food
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th01m3nn Aug 1, 2023 @ 10:43am 
I'd say upgrade but I'm not an insane player
Upgraded is better imo. I'm redoing the story missions on insane, I can't quite manage 1.2 but 1.1 I managed by going for 19 black ants then upgrading. I figure it's better to have 19 tier 3 ants with a food bank large enough for a few respawns than 57 small ants that all need to be replenished. It's cheaper and faster in the long run to upgrade.
The Real GOW Aug 2, 2023 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by The Mighty Mulletman:
Upgraded is better imo. I'm redoing the story missions on insane, I can't quite manage 1.2 but 1.1 I managed by going for 19 black ants then upgrading. I figure it's better to have 19 tier 3 ants with a food bank large enough for a few respawns than 57 small ants that all need to be replenished. It's cheaper and faster in the long run to upgrade.
Funny enough i find 1.2 insane challange to be super easy but 1.1 i just cannot beat
Originally posted by Crusader Femboy OwO:
Originally posted by The Mighty Mulletman:
Upgraded is better imo. I'm redoing the story missions on insane, I can't quite manage 1.2 but 1.1 I managed by going for 19 black ants then upgrading. I figure it's better to have 19 tier 3 ants with a food bank large enough for a few respawns than 57 small ants that all need to be replenished. It's cheaper and faster in the long run to upgrade.
Funny enough i find 1.2 insane challange to be super easy but 1.1 i just cannot beat

Then we're perfectly positioned to help one another and both gain by it.

What's your tactic 1.2? I get overwhelmed after a while as by the time my ants are done with the later waves, another is on it's way, no time to replenish or get food, I assume I'm taking too long to build up black ants or harvesting spiders sub optimally.
I clear more or less one side at a time clockwise starting from the bottom nests.
Nikitian Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by The Mighty Mulletman:
Originally posted by Crusader Femboy OwO:
Funny enough i find 1.2 insane challange to be super easy but 1.1 i just cannot beat

Then we're perfectly positioned to help one another and both gain by it.

What's your tactic 1.2? I get overwhelmed after a while as by the time my ants are done with the later waves, another is on it's way, no time to replenish or get food, I assume I'm taking too long to build up black ants or harvesting spiders sub optimally.
I clear more or less one side at a time clockwise starting from the bottom nests.

In the spirit of the topic's question:

I am not the person you are asking, nor have I beaten 1.2 on Insane yet (only Hard and Med-Challenge yet), but my performance with 1.2 has *significantly* improved after I decided to mix workers with fighters (and generally initially spam for more ants over upgraded ones) for 1.2. Spiders care not for the level of your ants, they will still instakill every few seconds, and they will still run to and from their nests while ignoring the ants, so you want to flood their nests with ants that will slowly grind their health down as the spiders are running by. Don't try to catch spiders with your attack squads the way you'd want to in 1.1 (your ants would just waste time running after the spider, and time wasted = more dead ants), just put the target point in the spider's nest, disable food collection and march on.

To think of it, it might also work for catching egg thieves - catching up seems difficult, but if your nest is flooded with workers and soldiers, they might grind many of the thieves down as they all auto-attack in small radius while the thieves are running by.
The Real GOW Aug 3, 2023 @ 6:04am 
Originally posted by The Mighty Mulletman:
Originally posted by Crusader Femboy OwO:
Funny enough i find 1.2 insane challange to be super easy but 1.1 i just cannot beat

Then we're perfectly positioned to help one another and both gain by it.

What's your tactic 1.2? I get overwhelmed after a while as by the time my ants are done with the later waves, another is on it's way, no time to replenish or get food, I assume I'm taking too long to build up black ants or harvesting spiders sub optimally.
I clear more or less one side at a time clockwise starting from the bottom nests.
Because the ants steal a lot of eggs i make a ton of warrior ants all over the front area and put a couple of speed pads towards the front of the cave so they can dash to enemies trying to sneak by and during the downtime i use them to overwhelm the spiders and use the workers to snag resources and when the enemy ants or those wood things (on challenge mode) attack then bring all your warrior ants to the front, here upgrading is pointless since if the ants snatch your 1 egg that's level 3 then you've lost it until the timer is out where as if you build 3 of them for the same price then they take 1 you still got 2 more for the same price, the trick here is to just make a ton of black ants towards the front of the cave so when the enemies come they will steal those eggs and not the worker eggs because then you will be unable to snag as many resources after defending the invasion
Just an update, many tries later I finally managed 1.2 on insane.
The trick does seem to be numbers, a dozen workers then 15 warriors, digging out the lonely spider nests first before attacking the spider colonies, a large number of workers has little trouble with a single spider and are cost effective in their part as spider bait, spawn replenishers and harvesters.

One can also use a swarm of workers with food collection and fighting turned off to dig out the hard to kill wood lice and beetles so the spiders can kill them for you. You do lose a few workers but they are cheap and quicker than the time it takes warriors to kill off the woodlice and the spiders themselves and go defend against raids.
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Date Posted: Aug 1, 2023 @ 10:00am
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