Can you please fix the Leaf Cutter mechanics on freeplay.

[Symatrix Hill]

Every time i wanna try out the leaf cutter they get attacked far to early where i have only made 4 or 5 worker and load back 10 times do not help because we get attacked no matter what every time to early.

These leaf cutter need time to transfer the leaf to food as well.

When i use gene thief i almost never ever get attacked because they always have crazy much food available nearby the nest who make me build huge army in no time.

Keep in mind when we break out of the nest we have 7+2 worker and very few waste tile and food tile and then when we make 2 -3 more worker we gonna get heavily attacked immediately where we have no chance to defend ourselves who make them impossible to use on the same setup as other ant species.


This issue need to be fixed a way we can use them without starting up on a random cave who make the game very boring because then they get to strong when they break out as all other on random cave.

By the way the leaf cutter need leaf in the cave and not food so to swap out all food and place leaf there gonna help a lot.

And you need to add more leaf on the map as well on the midst game and later stages because all other ant species have plenty of food by all these enemy creature on the map and the leaf cutter have 1 or two trees far far away on the other side of the map and if we are lucky and reach level 2-3 or 4 enemy creature then they usually only have 1 trees on the other side of the map.

When i play against them they have plenty of trees every place even up to level 4 enemy creature so developer please take a look at them and make them playable for everyone without starting up on a random cave where every food should be swapped out with leaf on a ordinary cave.

[Frost Spectre]

Or change the minim AI to first grow fungus, then start removing dead fungus to refuse.

Current way to start up Leafcutter seems to be to spam workers in order to maximize the minims, this makes them very vulnerable to rush attacks as the workers are quite bad fighters.
If you try to make Medias and Majors too early, your economy grinds to slow as the minims focus on removing refuse from the brood tiles.

[Mike]

AI for freeplay is about to be torn out and redone; not much point us fixing current issues until after.

[threethreethree]

Originally posted by Mike:

...is about to be torn out and redone...

Ooh, he means business. 'torn out and redone'. we not playing, we serious. hehe. can't wait, btw. I ended up liking the leafcutter.

haven't tried leafcutter in freeplay yet though...gonna hafta to see op's issue.

[The Anax]

Originally posted by threethreethree:

Originally posted by Mike:

...is about to be torn out and redone...

Ooh, he means business. 'torn out and redone'. we not playing, we serious. hehe. can't wait, btw. I ended up liking the leafcutter.

haven't tried leafcutter in freeplay yet though...gonna hafta to see op's issue.

It's generally very difficult currently to play as them as the resources are far more limited. For example of one defeats another colony their tiles do not convert to leaves. And we have no slider bars to have leafcutter plants more plentiful or anything like how we can control things like a dead fish or infestations which give a ton of food.

[threethreethree]

Originally posted by anaximanes_2000:

Originally posted by threethreethree:

Ooh, he means business. 'torn out and redone'. we not playing, we serious. hehe. can't wait, btw. I ended up liking the leafcutter.

haven't tried leafcutter in freeplay yet though...gonna hafta to see op's issue.

It's generally very difficult currently to play as them as the resources are far more limited. For example of one defeats another colony their tiles do not convert to leaves. And we have no slider bars to have leafcutter plants more plentiful or anything like how we can control things like a dead fish or infestations which give a ton of food.

I suppose any freeplay with leafcutters needs maps with foliage, and for that foliage to regrow to some extent because freeplay intrinsically has the possibility of a player indulging in the game for a much longer period of time.

[Symatrix Hill]

-- Here is one other issue : these food i have left i gonna burn easily if i walk out to the right/easth where in fact i gonna run minus because now the enemy creature have reach level 2 where i have only 82% soldier and about zero soldier upgrade + several spider nest in fact 3 of them i need to walk through and every time i try that direction the nest to the right gonna run out and stop me + these big wolf spider level 2 who is crazy at this stages and they all gonna protect every food places who make it even more impossible and this is on ramp + difficulty medium and paying for the upkeep and not random cave.

Well at this stages i seen a lot of food to the north but can`t reach it because i get blocked by enemy creature all the time and that trip do not make it worth it where i probably gonna have 200 to 100 food left after collecting 600 food.

And why do all food in the game have to be around other enemies nest every times as these leaf cutter to the north who have plenty of food all the time, why do not we have the same amount on ours side of the map who is another issue where i can`t even upgrade my soldiers unit who have reach 82% only.

Well in few minute after this screen shot the enemy creature reach level 3 which is totally crazy and all i had was a army at 82% with about zero upgrade where 3 wolf spider level 3 enter my nest and wipe me out because i do not have any food nearby my nest and can`t reach any other food on the map without losing more than i earn.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890477226


I spend several hour on this game and i get wiped out at least 10 times but i load back to last save 10 minute every time to give it a try and few minute after this screenshot i get wiped out by level 3 enemy creature and no chance to load back because i can`t reach any food.

-- When i start the game this happened every time where i was forced to start up a new game or load back 10 to 20 times where the mechanics don`t wanna let me buy soldier and stopped the food production at 70 food and just look at that army who attacking me at this stages who is crazy and this happened few minute after i break out time after time.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890489802

-- I load back several times and now i get attacked by the leaf cutter, just look at that army and all these enemy who is on their way.
How do we gonna deal with that when we have only few unit and the food production refuse to go up to 80 food where i can buy soldier because the mechanics want me to buy a lot of worker before speeding up the food production.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890490272

-- After loading back 20 times more i got lucky and had 3 soldier and see what happened now where i have 246 leaf but the game is so slow to transfer these leaf to food and by the way since i had 3 soldier i get attacked by two different ant nest the leaf cutter and the army ants.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890490704


-- One time i got lucky and reach level 4 enemy creature but was forced to give up because the only available food on the map was on the other side of the map where i had "1 single tree with 600 food" and to get to that food i was forced to fight 3 other enemy ants nest + all these level 4 enemy creature on the map, well what happened was that all other 3 ants nest get wiped out at the same time instantly and now the map swarming with enemy creature.

The enemy creature level up far to fast where we almost have no chance to wipe out any enemy ants nest because the enemy creature gonna do that almost every time and that mechanics need to change as well where the enemy creature is on the map as food where we fight the enemy ants nest and not the enemy creature.

Turn environment to easy do not help where they always wipe out every ant colony when they reach level 3 or 4 where we should have setting to prevent that as well.