Empires of the Undergrowth

Empires of the Undergrowth

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Wyrm Sep 30, 2022 @ 10:32pm
Formicarium challenges boring and annoying
I hate the formicarium challenges. I get stuck on them, they are completely uninteresting to me but they block advancement. So having to replay them several time to get past them currently feels like work. Not entertainment.
Can we please have the story-mode progress without this? It is ruining the game for me and makes me play mostly free-play instead.
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Hagon Wyvon Sep 30, 2022 @ 11:01pm 
points at easy mode
this?
Mike  [developer] Oct 1, 2022 @ 1:02am 
They're important to make sure the player has progressed sufficiently in resources and skill / knowledge to be able to take on the next set of levels / challenges.

They're balanced so that you should have everything you need to complete them after completing two levels and perhaps one on challenge mode.

As has been pointed out, you can make your life significantly easier by playing them on easy - no FC should take longer than 10-15 minutes.
Wyrm Oct 1, 2022 @ 2:16am 
Yes, I did the last one on easy. It hurts in the pride :D
Scyobi_Empire Oct 1, 2022 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by Wyrm:
Yes, I did the last one on easy. It hurts in the pride :D
Then, in all seriousness, get good? With better skill and more experience (along with a good nest layout and plenty of food), I'm sure you can beat normal and in time, even hard. Sometimes it takes a while to succeed, but it is worth the wait.
Wyrm Oct 2, 2022 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by Scyobi_Empire:
Originally posted by Wyrm:
Yes, I did the last one on easy. It hurts in the pride :D
Then, in all seriousness, get good? With better skill and more experience (along with a good nest layout and plenty of food), I'm sure you can beat normal and in time, even hard. Sometimes it takes a while to succeed, but it is worth the wait.

I like the missions. They are fun and challenging and I have no issue with failing with them. But the Formicarium challenges are just so darned boring so having to do them overe again is just a pain
Astronaught85 Oct 3, 2022 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by Wyrm:
Originally posted by Scyobi_Empire:
Then, in all seriousness, get good? With better skill and more experience (along with a good nest layout and plenty of food), I'm sure you can beat normal and in time, even hard. Sometimes it takes a while to succeed, but it is worth the wait.

I like the missions. They are fun and challenging and I have no issue with failing with them. But the Formicarium challenges are just so darned boring so having to do them overe again is just a pain

then just play another game or get good at the game, don't complain
Astronaught85 Oct 3, 2022 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by Wyrm:
Originally posted by Scyobi_Empire:
Then, in all seriousness, get good? With better skill and more experience (along with a good nest layout and plenty of food), I'm sure you can beat normal and in time, even hard. Sometimes it takes a while to succeed, but it is worth the wait.

I like the missions. They are fun and challenging and I have no issue with failing with them. But the Formicarium challenges are just so darned boring so having to do them overe again is just a pain

then just play another game or get good at the game, don't complain
Stübi Senpai Oct 6, 2022 @ 5:32am 
Originally posted by Astronaught85:
Originally posted by Wyrm:

I like the missions. They are fun and challenging and I have no issue with failing with them. But the Formicarium challenges are just so darned boring so having to do them overe again is just a pain

then just play another game or get good at the game, don't complain

If by "get good" you mean replaying the same content you just played again, then building twice as much stuff, then parking your ants at the nest entrance, and then going afk to make coffee while you wait for the challenge to be done, then sure.

Pretending this is a skill issue is stupid. Unlike the levels the in between there isnt any speed or efficiency factor to the challenge. You either have enough stuff to beat it or you dont. Its the exact opposite of what playing the actual levels is usually like.

It doesn't help that you have to listen to generic evil scientist #69, who chuckles cartoonishly to himself as he ignores direct orders.
cornucanis Oct 6, 2022 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by Stübi Senpai:
Originally posted by Astronaught85:

then just play another game or get good at the game, don't complain

If by "get good" you mean replaying the same content you just played again, then building twice as much stuff, then parking your ants at the nest entrance, and then going afk to make coffee while you wait for the challenge to be done, then sure.

Not to suggest that "get good" is the solution, but the steps you've outlined shouldn't ever be necessary for a player who is actually good at the game. It's not super difficult to beat all the formicarium challenges even on insane without ever replaying content - the missions give you more than enough rewards to build up for the challenges without having to replay if you use your resources well.
Wyrm Oct 6, 2022 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by cornucanis:
Originally posted by Stübi Senpai:

If by "get good" you mean replaying the same content you just played again, then building twice as much stuff, then parking your ants at the nest entrance, and then going afk to make coffee while you wait for the challenge to be done, then sure.

Not to suggest that "get good" is the solution, but the steps you've outlined shouldn't ever be necessary for a player who is actually good at the game. It's not super difficult to beat all the formicarium challenges even on insane without ever replaying content - the missions give you more than enough rewards to build up for the challenges without having to replay if you use your resources well.

It doesn't quite matter if they are easy or hard. They are still insanely boring and just takes too much time. The last one was somewhat fun as it actually required a little bit of thinking. But all the others where just... boring. I could as well play a tower-defence game.
cornucanis Oct 6, 2022 @ 8:45pm 
Originally posted by Wyrm:
Originally posted by cornucanis:

Not to suggest that "get good" is the solution, but the steps you've outlined shouldn't ever be necessary for a player who is actually good at the game. It's not super difficult to beat all the formicarium challenges even on insane without ever replaying content - the missions give you more than enough rewards to build up for the challenges without having to replay if you use your resources well.

It doesn't quite matter if they are easy or hard. They are still insanely boring and just takes too much time. The last one was somewhat fun as it actually required a little bit of thinking. But all the others where just... boring. I could as well play a tower-defence game.

I was specifically replying to the person who suggested there was no skill involved and that no matter how skilled you are you would reach a point where you have to replay old content just to clear the formicarium challenges. That's simply not true, so I just wanted to correct the misinformation.
JohnDman Jun 8, 2024 @ 12:05pm 
have to agree its what made me refund the game, the challenges felt very boring having to repeat and was getting in the way of the campaign.
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Date Posted: Sep 30, 2022 @ 10:32pm
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