Species you would want to be playable in the future

[Bulborb87]

I've recently started to enjoy this odd RTS game about ant's and it's interesting with how they handle the kinds that in this game so far (even tho some of the levels are a massive pain)

and im curious as to what kind(s) you all would like to see become playable in this game if the dev's did add them in


UPDATE: i'll also allow the idea of enemies too since that would be a cool thing to bring into this discussion to spice things up

[MagiChris]

Dinoponera gigantea - The largest species of ant, that we know of. These ants are 3-4cm in length. They also occupy more then one nest at a time making them polydomous. not sure what the abilities should be. Maybe depending on the targets size it has a higher damage multiplier.

[Spyder]

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I think I spoke with Mike about antlion traps being in the game at some point so it could happen.

Also, what crab?

i believe he's refering to the hermit crab's

On another post he described what is a whip spider

[Bulborb87]

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i believe he's refering to the hermit crab's

On another post he described what is a whip spider

ok that's just confusing

[Bulborb87]

now this ant species im gonna mention is EXTREMELY unlikely to get in since it's an ant species that's been extinct for million's of year's....but i think would just be kind of a nice post-game unit you unlock by finishing a very difficult post-game mission: Titanomyrma Gigantea

[Wincent_the_great]

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On another post he described what is a whip spider

ok that's just confusing

i'm sorry, english isn't my first nor second language, i didn't talk about the hermit crab, i talkd about the whip spider and the little spider that you find in the demo level (critters). The spider's technique could be what the antlion does, and the whip spider: you see him hiding under a leaf and only will attack if you bring your ants near him... That's what i wanted the metamorphosis of the antlion (the kind of dragonfly) to do... : a triggered attack

[Horknit]

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ok that's just confusing

i'm sorry, english isn't my first nor second language, i didn't talk about the hermit crab, i talkd about the whip spider and the little spider that you find in the demo level (critters). The spider's technique could be what the antlion does, and the whip spider: you see him hiding under a leaf and only will attack if you bring your ants near him... That's what i wanted the metamorphosis of the antlion (the kind of dragonfly) to do... : a triggered attack

so they lie in wait for your ants to come within a certain radius, then they swoop down and kill one? Interesting, maybe in some levels, they would go after aphids, but instead of only snatching one, they snatch two while also fighting your ants if you try to stop it. They may also regenerate hp if they eat them, but have low hp and give less food(less than ladybug), maybe they could appear in a desert challenge level?

[Wincent_the_great]

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i'm sorry, english isn't my first nor second language, i didn't talk about the hermit crab, i talkd about the whip spider and the little spider that you find in the demo level (critters). The spider's technique could be what the antlion does, and the whip spider: you see him hiding under a leaf and only will attack if you bring your ants near him... That's what i wanted the metamorphosis of the antlion (the kind of dragonfly) to do... : a triggered attack

so they lie in wait for your ants to come within a certain radius, then they swoop down and kill one? Interesting, maybe in some levels, they would go after aphids, but instead of only snatching one, they snatch two while also fighting your ants if you try to stop it. They may also regenerate hp if they eat them, but have low hp and give less food(less than ladybug), maybe they could appear in a desert challenge level?

yes exactly!! I'm so happy someone understood.

[Wincent_the_great]

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ik we have Wood Ant's as ranged unit's...but what other ant species could also be ranged unit's, im not saying they would act as a stronger and thus better version of the wood ant's, im just saying that we could use another ranged support unit as many RTS games have about 2 maybe even 3 different ranged units

But I don’t get it, why have another ranged if it doesn’t have any differences with the wood ants, why not just make more wood ants in different places to make different armies.
Plus wood ants have the speed kind and slow but powerful kind, what else would you need? If it’s just to both strong broods and fast broods then that would be a big waste of time and space

[Horknit]

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ik we have Wood Ant's as ranged unit's...but what other ant species could also be ranged unit's, im not saying they would act as a stronger and thus better version of the wood ant's, im just saying that we could use another ranged support unit as many RTS games have about 2 maybe even 3 different ranged units

But I don’t get it, why have another ranged if it doesn’t have any differences with the wood ants, why not just make more wood ants in different places to make different armies.
Plus wood ants have the speed kind and slow but powerful kind, what else would you need? If it’s just to both strong broods and fast broods then that would be a big waste of time and space

Maybe there could be one with shotgun spread type shots with limited range, dealing a pretty good amount of damage(providing the individual hitboxes connect, about as much as a base mortar of similar level) and inflicting a status effect? And as its second option maybe a splasher that splashes a small, temporary area that deals constant damage similar to a refuse chamber and/or applies an effect like slowness ,a short stun per few seconds or venom then resorts to melee or retreats till it recharges or if you want to really see 30 of these doing it at the same time, does that but in a flamethrower like manner instead.

But wood ants are the most iconic and well known acid spraying ants(because they actually have long RANGE) so another acid sprayer would be a poor choice, but there is one ant species(forgot name, it's on these forums somewhere) that sprays what is essentially insect nerve gas at termites(and other insects but they usually run away before being killed by it), but it hurts them too if they linger in the gas, maybe if these ants were in, their extremely powerful sprays will be balanced by their mild self damage, friendly fire(maybe only the slowness will be given to your ants) and cooldown times.

[Horknit]

also one thing, will we possibly get any direct or possible counters to the wood ants? because as of now they seem to win against every melee ant in the game in an army like situation, maybe there could be some ants that rush in(maybe some sort of crazy ants could work?) past enemy lines and incapacitate(possibly through an attack lowering acid spray or sting), heavily distract or kill the rangers, but are let down from fighting larger and more melee oriented ants(unless there's a lot more of them than the enemy) due to their low hp and mediocre melee damage(they don't need to do TOO much damage, just enough to kill ranged and squishy enemies)

[Wincent_the_great]

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But I don’t get it, why have another ranged if it doesn’t have any differences with the wood ants, why not just make more wood ants in different places to make different armies.
Plus wood ants have the speed kind and slow but powerful kind, what else would you need? If it’s just to both strong broods and fast broods then that would be a big waste of time and space

Maybe there could be one with shotgun spread type shots with limited range, dealing a pretty good amount of damage(providing the individual hitboxes connect, about as much as a base mortar of similar level) and inflicting a status effect? And as its second option maybe a splasher that splashes a small, temporary area that deals constant damage similar to a refuse chamber and/or applies an effect like slowness ,a short stun per few seconds or venom then resorts to melee or retreats till it recharges or if you want to really see 30 of these doing it at the same time, does that but in a flamethrower like manner instead.

But wood ants are the most iconic and well known acid spraying ants(because they actually have long RANGE) so another acid sprayer would be a poor choice, but there is one ant species(forgot name, it's on these forums somewhere) that sprays what is essentially insect nerve gas at termites(and other insects but they usually run away before being killed by it), but it hurts them too if they linger in the gas, maybe if these ants were in, their extremely powerful sprays will be balanced by their mild self damage, friendly fire(maybe only the slowness will be given to your ants) and cooldown times.

The first idea is close to the wood ants capabilities, the second could be nice, introducing multiple other strategies of defense and offense

[Wincent_the_great]

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also one thing, will we possibly get any direct or possible counters to the wood ants? because as of now they seem to win against every melee ant in the game in an army like situation, maybe there could be some ants that rush in(maybe some sort of crazy ants could work?) past enemy lines and incapacitate(possibly through an attack lowering acid spray or sting), heavily distract or kill the rangers, but are let down from fighting larger and more melee oriented ants(unless there's a lot more of them than the enemy) due to their low hp and mediocre melee damage(they don't need to do TOO much damage, just enough to kill ranged and squishy enemies)

Aren’t taunting majors a good choice?

[Bulborb87]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Goldenmaster724:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Judgementamander:

also one thing, will we possibly get any direct or possible counters to the wood ants? because as of now they seem to win against every melee ant in the game in an army like situation, maybe there could be some ants that rush in(maybe some sort of crazy ants could work?) past enemy lines and incapacitate(possibly through an attack lowering acid spray or sting), heavily distract or kill the rangers, but are let down from fighting larger and more melee oriented ants(unless there's a lot more of them than the enemy) due to their low hp and mediocre melee damage(they don't need to do TOO much damage, just enough to kill ranged and squishy enemies)

Aren’t taunting majors a good choice?

yes, yes they are since at lvl 3 their taunt grants them an 80% damage resistance which is very good considering that leafcutter's are your tank's

[Horknit]

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Aren’t taunting majors a good choice?

yes, yes they are since at lvl 3 their taunt grants them an 80% damage resistance which is very good considering that leafcutter's are your tank's

ok then, but splash damage mortars kinda invalidate the "only attack this"

[Alien Queen]

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they cent balance all ants tugeder if ants oen got size ather got more number or us masive atack to enemys like fire ants or to cross rivers to build from ther bodys islend ho go over water^^ nature dont balance wolf cud snifle blood and prey form lot kilometers yet sheep see lot more green colors and see any ho try hide in grass:P same insects mentist ar big OP but tons ants kill all:) to balance game wud destroy game play all ants shud got difrent game play and go onlien finaly:D

we aren't saying how balanced they are in terms of gameplay, we are discussing how they could be implemented and online play will eventually come, as of now it is clear some ants counter or are better than others, like wood ants vs army ants as your attackers. That dinosaur ant comment is there because they aren't very armored but are really powerful

one nature dont do balance if one animal fast atehr ar faster so balance dotn exist in life;) i love see the game finaly go multi and add more races of ants to play as if one ants ar strogn your ant shdu got biger number i play i free mode an i cud see tooo big ants number lag game lot;) when game ud go multi so i cud play whit frend and escape from humend and go to wild and atack new maps harvest be nice if game be bit like dark moon croniks toy uo got one nets base and atack ather maps for food and sie your ants nest:) i got som sugestion but they all copy right cuze im GA and may sugestions arent free gifts:P but all ho lisend to me get succes in games see heros and generals or oen ho not lisend to me evolue and where ar they selling lemoniade next to ther home;P for money up^^