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Best Ending? SPOILERS
Hey all. I'm just starting off with the game and I'm wondering if there is any way to save everyone (or at least a very hopeful ending)? I understand that some might find this heretical that I'm asking for these spoilers but I'd personally rather know this stuff now rather then be disappointed if it turns out the ending is sad or bittersweet-with-a-side of bitter.

P.S. I noticed that some developers visit these forums. Any info they could impart would be doubly appreciated. Regardless, it's cool to see you all on here. Best wishes!
Last edited by DerWunderWaffle; Jul 27, 2017 @ 1:42pm
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death_by_doom Jul 27, 2017 @ 1:49pm 
I don't know how to put a censor bar over spoilers, so I'll just tell you know that anything you read past here will be spoilers.

No, you can not save everyone, but if you do everything right you will get a rather happy ending and only two exiles left in the downside.
kid_zomb  [developer] Jul 27, 2017 @ 1:54pm 
Hey, I'll double-spoiler this just in case. Thank you for asking.

The ending of Pyre has very, very many possible permutations depending on various factors, especially which characters end up being liberated and which characters end up remaining. While it may be your expectation that liberation = good and remaining = bad, that is simply not the case from a narrative standpoint, as one of the central themes in Pyre is the idea that sometimes, you just have to keep going, and things will turn out all right, even they don't turn out exactly as you might hope or expect. I think the best way to experience this game is for it to feel challenging but not impossible, and to take your wins and losses as they come. In some cases you might even feel inclined to let your adversaries win, and that's OK too. It's not a matter of good ending vs. bad ending, it's just a matter of YOUR ending.

Thank you very much for playing, and we hope you enjoy your time with the game!
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RubahaParen Jul 27, 2017 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by kid_zomb:
Hey, I'll double-spoiler this just in case. Thank you for asking.

The ending of Pyre has very, very many possible permutations depending on various factors, especially which characters end up being liberated and which characters end up remaining. While it may be your expectation that liberation = good and remaining = bad, that is simply not the case from a narrative standpoint, as one of the central themes in Pyre is the idea that sometimes, you just have to keep going, and things will turn out all right, even they don't turn out exactly as you might hope or expect. I think the best way to experience this game is for it to feel challenging but not impossible, and to take your wins and losses as they come. In some cases you might even feel inclined to let your adversaries win, and that's OK too. It's not a matter of good ending vs. bad ending, it's just a matter of YOUR ending.

Thank you very much for playing, and we hope you enjoy your time with the game!


Thanks for comment! But I have a question: Is it possible to keep Voice Guy alive at the end?
kid_zomb  [developer] Jul 27, 2017 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by RubahaParen:
Thanks for comment! But I have a question

While it's always the case that the Voice ceases troubling the Reader, seeing as the Rites are over... what happens to the man behind the Voice implicitly depends on the outcome of the Plan. It's not explicitly stated that he isn't alive, certainly not in all versions of the ending; what exactly happens to him is meant to be left to the imagination to some extent.
AnemoneMeer Jul 27, 2017 @ 3:13pm 
Hedwyn can easily be left behind in the Downside. As odd as it is to say, he can get a very happy ending being left behind if you do other things right, because the love of his life comes to join him.
Naked Master Jul 27, 2017 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by AnemoneMeer:
Hedwyn can easily be left behind in the Downside. As odd as it is to say, he can get a very happy ending being left behind if you do other things right, because the love of his life comes to join him.

WHAT.
AnemoneMeer Jul 27, 2017 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by Naked Master:
Originally posted by AnemoneMeer:
Hedwyn can easily be left behind in the Downside. As odd as it is to say, he can get a very happy ending being left behind if you do other things right, because the love of his life comes to join him.

WHAT.

Yep. Send Pamitha back after they talk about it. Plan has to succeed. Highwing Remnants need to be okay. She ends up in the Downside as well, and the two are happy.
CFFG.Shinigami Jul 27, 2017 @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by AnemoneMeer:
Originally posted by Naked Master:

WHAT.

Yep. Send Pamitha back after they talk about it. Plan has to succeed. Highwing Remnants need to be okay. She ends up in the Downside as well, and the two are happy.
Nice!
AnemoneMeer Jul 27, 2017 @ 5:46pm 
Yeah, there's a really clearly defined flag for it triggering when they talk to eachother. It will come up and they will talk about it.
Sunn brO))) Jul 27, 2017 @ 7:56pm 
is it possible to fulfill Volfred's plan to get all 8 races liberated? With only 7 rites, it seems like you always have to leave one out
AnemoneMeer Jul 27, 2017 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by Sunn brO))):
is it possible to fulfill Volfred's plan to get all 8 races liberated? With only 7 rites, it seems like you always have to leave one out

Yep
Baron Jul 27, 2017 @ 8:02pm 
I particularly liked the interaction when Rhae* is released and the Fate are allowed to win a Liberation Rite.

The Oldheart kid gets tossed in by his dad. He and the moon child end up having scads of kids together. It's cute.

I also want to try for an ending where Iggy and Jodi both end up released. It was heavily implied something interesting would happen there, one way or the other.

* YEAH, I SAID IT. YOU WANNA GO?
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DerWunderWaffle Jul 28, 2017 @ 7:57pm 
Thank you all for the help! I'm glad to hear you help most people can have a happy ending at least. I can stand some degree of sadness but too much of it makes me wonder why I'm spending my spare time voluntarily depressing myself (not implying that games from Supergiant are depressing or even sad (though they certainly feel haunting), quite the opposite actually, but many games are.)

P.S. Thank you kid_zomb for the answer! It's a joy to have a developer answer my question. I've been enjoying what I've been able to play of the game and I just wanted to say thank you for developing it. It's much appreciated.
Jayne Jul 28, 2017 @ 9:55pm 
There's three main endings as far as I can tell. A "good" ending where you get peaceful revolution, and "semi-good" ending where you get violent revolution, and then a "bad" ending where the revolution fails, but the harpies kick♥♥♥♥♥anyway and make the commonwealth fall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1viU0ZxFgQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ1AjQPEUFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xovtIdqKe9A
ruff1298 Jul 28, 2017 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by DerWunderWaffle:
Thank you all for the help! I'm glad to hear you help most people can have a happy ending at least. I can stand some degree of sadness but too much of it makes me wonder why I'm spending my spare time voluntarily depressing myself (not implying that games from Supergiant are depressing or even sad (though they certainly feel haunting), quite the opposite actually, but many games are.)

P.S. Thank you kid_zomb for the answer! It's a joy to have a developer answer my question. I've been enjoying what I've been able to play of the game and I just wanted to say thank you for developing it. It's much appreciated.
They get together. If Iggy and Jodi are separate, Jodi enters his thoughts frequently and he wonders what could have been.
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