Alt-Tab is still broken.

[Arbiter]

Why?

Has anyone had this issue before and found a fix? "Full screen optimisation" and Borderless did not help.

Two of my friends are playing it right now and neither of them has issues.

This was a problem on my new PC and my old PC.

[Kuma]

What exactly is broken? Could be some random software you installed that is causing issues.

[Arbiter]

Originally posted by RMJ:

Obviously it is your rigs, It is not the game! You probably use the same crap that causes the conflicts on both PC's! Only you can find it.

:D :D :D

Sod off.

[Arbiter]

Originally posted by Kuma:

What exactly is broken? Could be some random software you installed that is causing issues.

If I alt-tab, the game freezes when I try to tab back in. Does not recover.
I don't install random software and I'm pretty sure stuff like NVidia drivers don't do this.

Plus, you know, brand new PC.

I've tried all the usual stuff like running as admin but nothing works.

That's why I asked if someone else had found a fix.

[GogglezDoNuffin]

Originally posted by Arbiter:

Originally posted by Kuma:

What exactly is broken? Could be some random software you installed that is causing issues.

If I alt-tab, the game freezes when I try to tab back in. Does not recover.
I don't install random software and I'm pretty sure stuff like NVidia drivers don't do this.

Plus, you know, brand new PC.

I've tried all the usual stuff like running as admin but nothing works.

That's why I asked if someone else had found a fix.

Define random. Even Discord can cause game to not start up or specific softwares for peripherals. It's most likely some Nvidia crap on your end that causes it, either shadowplay or game filter.

[Arbiter]

Originally posted by GogglezDoNuffin:

Originally posted by Arbiter:

If I alt-tab, the game freezes when I try to tab back in. Does not recover.
I don't install random software and I'm pretty sure stuff like NVidia drivers don't do this.
Plus, you know, brand new PC.
I've tried all the usual stuff like running as admin but nothing works.
That's why I asked if someone else had found a fix.

Define random. Even Discord can cause game to not start up or specific softwares for peripherals. It's most likely some Nvidia crap on your end that causes it, either shadowplay or game filter.

I've tried the game without Discord running and it doesn't work any better.
I don't use Shadowplay or filters.
Chances of the same software issue being on two different PCs years apart is pretty low.

[Arbiter]

Originally posted by RMJ:

Ron White said it best ,
you can't fix stupid!
I have no issues, but I allow NO crap on my PC - running in the back ground .....

I have no issues like this with literally any other game, just Wildlands and Breakpoint which are both jank to begin with.

"I allow NO crap"
So you don't talk with friends?
You don't edit photographs?
You don't edit audio?
You don't use EPIC, Steam, Origin, UConnect?
You only use Windows Media Player for audio and video?
You don't update drivers?
You don't ever download anything?

Or do you mean "crap" as in garbage from unreliable sites? I don't do that.

I just accept things that I know to be reliable and trustworthy.
If a game dev doesn't know how to make a game work properly with basic ♥♥♥♥♥ NVidia drivers or Discord, they shouldn't be a game dev at all.

[GogglezDoNuffin]

Originally posted by Arbiter:

Originally posted by RMJ:

Ron White said it best ,
you can't fix stupid!
I have no issues, but I allow NO crap on my PC - running in the back ground .....

I have no issues like this with literally any other game, just Wildlands and Breakpoint which are both jank to begin with.

"I allow NO crap"
So you don't talk with friends?
You don't edit photographs?
You don't edit audio?
You don't use EPIC, Steam, Origin, UConnect?
You only use Windows Media Player for audio and video?
You don't update drivers?
You don't ever download anything?

Or do you mean "crap" as in garbage from unreliable sites? I don't do that.

I just accept things that I know to be reliable and trustworthy.
If a game dev doesn't know how to make a game work properly with basic ♥♥♥♥♥ NVidia drivers or Discord, they shouldn't be a game dev at all.

Well, there is a lot of things that can cause it. It could be as simple as Steam overlay causing issues. Which reminds me, that Ubisoft Connect overlay at least used to have issues with BP. Having two monitors with different resolutions and hz can cause issues too. Even OC'd GPU or CPU can cause issues. One fix for similar issue for different game has been that when you alt tab back and it won't work, keep holding alt so you'll see all the active windows, mouseover to your game window and press mouse 1 on it and it'll activate the window.

[Arbiter]

Originally posted by GogglezDoNuffin:

Well, there is a lot of things that can cause it. It could be as simple as Steam overlay causing issues. Which reminds me, that Ubisoft Connect overlay at least used to have issues with BP. Having two monitors with different resolutions and hz can cause issues too. Even OC'd GPU or CPU can cause issues. One fix for similar issue for different game has been that when you alt tab back and it won't work, keep holding alt so you'll see all the active windows, mouseover to your game window and press mouse 1 on it and it'll activate the window.

I don't use the ubisoft overlay at all, I also don't have anything OC'd.
Going to give that holding alt thing when we play next, hadn't heard of that one!
Maybe it works better with clicking in stead of just alt+tab..

[[BRE] Léonard "le Fol"]

Give more paging space probably to your OS drive, change place of your drams, get better Drams, update chipset, update vcredist, update dot net framework ... I never had such a freeze..The game is not greatly optimized, but works well once u find the sweet spot I have no issues.
THese things are caused by issues that Drivers do create. I had BSOD back in the days of 580x Radeon because Widnows did push 2006 drivers in my pc for GPU!!!!!!
"I don't allow stuff"... it's a long way to learn how to control windows, trust me. It's a mess of things to learn. Nobody young as 15 years old or so is capable to have ahd the time unless only sitting all day long on pc to learn all the things pc management requires.

My game changes settings, my game doesn't show HUD with Helicopter... there are some issues.

Just go for a reinstall if you ahve good internet speed.. if it's not an issue for you

Check your mobo, and yes some softwares create issues. Yes discord is not that great it's a strange software and anyway these are all parts of USA apparati, they are used to spy on ppl so it's normal they are heavy.

[Arbiter]

Originally posted by BRE Léonard:

Give more paging space probably to your OS drive, change place of your drams, get better Drams, update chipset, update vcredist, update dot net framework ... I never had such a freeze..The game is not greatly optimized, but works well once u find the sweet spot I have no issues.
THese things are caused by issues that Drivers do create. I had BSOD back in the days of 580x Radeon because Widnows did push 2006 drivers in my pc for GPU!!!!!!
"I don't allow stuff"... it's a long way to learn how to control windows, trust me. It's a mess of things to learn. Nobody young as 15 years old or so is capable to have ahd the time unless only sitting all day long on pc to learn all the things pc management requires.
My game changes settings, my game doesn't show HUD with Helicopter... there are some issues.
Just go for a reinstall if you ahve good internet speed.. if it's not an issue for you
Check your mobo, and yes some softwares create issues. Yes discord is not that great it's a strange software and anyway these are all parts of USA apparati, they are used to spy on ppl so it's normal they are heavy.

Everything is up to date.
Memory sticks are fine, I did memory tests when I got the new PC. Had faulty RAM from the start years ago and ever since that I've been super paranoid about RAM issues. Though, RAM wouldn't explain a consistent 100% repeatable error in the same games on two different PCs with different memory sticks.
Paging space is set to max 16gb right now, should be plenty.

"Nobody young as 15 years old or so" my buddy my bro I'm 36, I've had more time on a PC than many people on here have been alive.

Oh and I've got 100/100 so download size is 100% irrelevant. I've done file integrity checks and I've re-installed it more than once.. and I did the same things back on my old PC.

It's not caused by Discord since my buddies who were on the same channel as me both had no issues. Something else, but absolutely no idea what.

The issue has been there for YEARS. If it was something as obvious as drivers... those drivers have changed hundreds of times since the first time I had this issue. Hell, the only things in my new PC that are even similar would be:
1) NVidia GPU (generations apart, hundreds of driver updates between), from different manufacturers
2) Windows (Different Windows tho)

Game runs like a dream, just janky sometimes.. and alt-tabbing breaks it completely.

[Kuma]

Well you couldn't figure out what is causing you this this issue but at least its a problem that is easy to avoid, just don't alt-tab.

As you stated this is a problem your friends don't have, so it isn't exactly reason to blame the game entirely and since you had this same issue with two different PCs it tells us that you probably did something that caused this issue twice.

[GogglezDoNuffin]

Originally posted by Arbiter:

Originally posted by BRE Léonard:

Give more paging space probably to your OS drive, change place of your drams, get better Drams, update chipset, update vcredist, update dot net framework ... I never had such a freeze..The game is not greatly optimized, but works well once u find the sweet spot I have no issues.
THese things are caused by issues that Drivers do create. I had BSOD back in the days of 580x Radeon because Widnows did push 2006 drivers in my pc for GPU!!!!!!
"I don't allow stuff"... it's a long way to learn how to control windows, trust me. It's a mess of things to learn. Nobody young as 15 years old or so is capable to have ahd the time unless only sitting all day long on pc to learn all the things pc management requires.
My game changes settings, my game doesn't show HUD with Helicopter... there are some issues.
Just go for a reinstall if you ahve good internet speed.. if it's not an issue for you
Check your mobo, and yes some softwares create issues. Yes discord is not that great it's a strange software and anyway these are all parts of USA apparati, they are used to spy on ppl so it's normal they are heavy.

It's not caused by Discord since my buddies who were on the same channel as me both had no issues. Something else, but absolutely no idea what.

Sometimes having Discord on for me, blocks my game from even starting, even if its own overlay is disabled, I bet that it doesn't happen to many people and it doesn't solve anything to assume something just because it didn't cause issues for others.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/460930/discussions/1/3004430047205787747/?ctp=2#c4041481833166504095 Discord caused similar problem as you're having.

You don't need to use Ubi overlay, it's on by default, it doesn't matter if you don't use it same way as like Steam overlay, if it's enabled it can cause issues. Many GPUs are factory OC'd, you don't need to OC them manually and they can still cause problems.

I'm still leaning that some overlay or program is messing it up.

Disable every program that isn't needed to run the game, that ALSO includes additional programs from manufacturers for mouse, keyboard, audio, etc, for example, Razer Synapse. Start the game, then try alt tab and see if it's fixed and if it's fixed, then shutdown the game and enable 1-2 programs at the time and repeat process. Wouldn't be the first time when some program for peripherals break something.

[Arbiter]

Originally posted by GogglezDoNuffin:

Originally posted by Arbiter:

It's not caused by Discord since my buddies who were on the same channel as me both had no issues. Something else, but absolutely no idea what.

Sometimes having Discord on for me, blocks my game from even starting, even if its own overlay is disabled, I bet that it doesn't happen to many people and it doesn't solve anything to assume something just because it didn't cause issues for others.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/460930/discussions/1/3004430047205787747/?ctp=2#c4041481833166504095 Discord caused similar problem as you're having.

You don't need to use Ubi overlay, it's on by default, it doesn't matter if you don't use it same way as like Steam overlay, if it's enabled it can cause issues. Many GPUs are factory OC'd, you don't need to OC them manually and they can still cause problems.

I'm still leaning that some overlay or program is messing it up.

Disable every program that isn't needed to run the game, that ALSO includes additional programs from manufacturers for mouse, keyboard, audio, etc, for example, Razer Synapse. Start the game, then try alt tab and see if it's fixed and if it's fixed, then shutdown the game and enable 1-2 programs at the time and repeat process. Wouldn't be the first time when some program for peripherals break something.

And like I said a few times before: I HAVE TRIED IT WITHOUT DISCORD ON

Didn't work.

I've tried having everything non-windows related that isn't mandatory off too. Didn't work.

[Arbiter]

Originally posted by Kuma:

Well you couldn't figure out what is causing you this this issue but at least its a problem that is easy to avoid, just don't alt-tab.

As you stated this is a problem your friends don't have, so it isn't exactly reason to blame the game entirely and since you had this same issue with two different PCs it tells us that you probably did something that caused this issue twice.

I'm not the only one with this problem, there's plenty of others.

Why do you insist on blaming me in stead of accepting that yes, at some point the developers overlooked something and it is now causing issues?

I've tried the gameS without ANY extra software running in the background. Just Windows and Ubisoft's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ client that is required to launch the game.

Did not work any better.

I have friends with the same NVidia card and same version of drivers without this issue.
One of them even has the same CPU and mobo as me.

They use the same software I use. They use Steam, Discord etc.

So why do you keep assuming it's something I did when I, in fact, did ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nothing to cause it?

It's unbelievable how many people will just think game developers are some omniscient entity that can not make mistakes.

[GogglezDoNuffin]

Of course they make mistakes. Doing some troubleshooting on your own, there is a chance to fix it, good luck.