"The Jungle Moved"

[Tres]

Warning up ahead if you dont want any spoilers regarding this mission then leave now.

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So I'm currently doing this mission and had no idea what it would be about. As it turns out I have to fight a predator now. Not really sure how this fits into the game world but okay, the build up was nice and I was actually creeped out a bit.
Now as I am fighting this thing I'm just livid. The only attack that it apparently has is "One-Hit-Laser-Canon" , so I'm hugging a tree, ignoring downed team mates, taking a shot at it with the highest damage weapon at my disposel whenever it shows itself. I've been doing this for about 30 minutes now (including several retries) and I just wonder:
How much health does the predator have?
I lost count of how many times I headshot it and it just won't die. Anything I'm doing wrong here?
If someone knows a more effective way of killing this thing, I would really apprechiate it.
On a side note, I also once died for no apparent reason.... Guess Nomad just had a heart attack or something....

[J_Frosty™ ©]

it was originally a side quest/special addon mission which they implementent into an actual mission. the predator mission goes along with the predator movie (really cool, but gory)with looking for the bodies and blood and stuffs. the predator attack is the laser cannon, spilt/greande things that is fires at players when its up in the trees and one other i believe. (no sure) . i have no idea the health but i manage to kill the predator by hiding on/ around a big rock and have my bot teammates revive me. I found an effective way to kill the predator is to use the highest damaging sniper (i dont remember the name but its unlocked from the tiers) I called in all the rebel support i possibly could ( you have to call them in before you get to the circle area of which the predator is at.... you can tell the distraction crew to set up near the area). The hit recognition is a little bit buggy for the laser, a player can be hit and downed before the action rocket hits them.

[Tres]

So keep doing what I've been doing then?
Actually managed to kill it once but I didn't expect that I needed to run and was about one second short of escaping. I also counted my shots with the highest damage sniper I have and I came up to 18 give or take 1-2 shots that i missed or when my team actually managed to hit it.
So all in all its dancing around a tree/rock for 15 minutes until the attacks finally get more frequent and just hoping that the hit box has mercy on you.
Who thought that this would be an enjoyable mission? I can't imagine that even the most die-hard Alien vs. Predator fans would find this tideous garbage fun....
Is there at least some kind of reward for dealing with this disgrace of gamedesign?

[SternLX]

If doin this solo try this. When it appears and you spot it keep circle strafing it. His shots will miss and you'll keep him in your cross hairs. You'll need to stay out in the open(I stayed out near the ammo crate) and keep moving at all times for this to work. The moment you stop moving and he's not invisible he will hit you. His attacks get more frequent the closer he is to setting off his self destruct. If doing this co-op, find the small stand of 2 trees that have the 2 big rocks across from one another. There's space between those rocks and trees to get shots off at him and have cover from just about any angle.

[Tres]

I was really sceptical about the "stay out in the open and circle strafing" part
But I tried it regardless and I really must say that this was the worst possible advise...
With no cover, no amount of sprinting out of the way will safe you from this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ "One-Hit-Laser" of doom ... also it apparently has a tendency to not show up.
So no laser sight but the shot comes regardless, out of nowhere....
I'm officially done with this mission. It is seriously beyond me how any designer could approve of this to be a fun experience and how no play tester (if there even was one) seemed to have an issue with this.
It takes ages until that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ finally decides to actually engage without minute-long breaks inbetween and when it does you better hope you are standing on the right side of the tree or rock. And I dont even want to think about how a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ predator was approved to be in the game in the first place. It doesnt fit, it doesnt belong, its completly unrelated and will most likely have no impact on the game world whatsoever... So what justifies its existence?

Yes I'm a little bit livid right now...

[Miti]

Dude u just suck, its easy as ♥♥♥♥

[Greb]

Just don't get caught by its self destruct bomb, or you have to do the whole fight again. Not sure if the damage is tracked or the number of times you hit it, or knock it out of its firing position. I do know the less health it has the faster to uncloaks to shoot, though.

I used the Desert Eagle, lots of damage in a high mobility and handling package. Didn't take any more than five minutes. You can shoot it while it is running around cloaked, if you're quick. Also quite cheeseable with thermal vision. Hug a tree, or find a high point of a "hill" type object you can duck behind/around when you hear the Predator uncloak. Also, if you swing that way, you can also reduce Terrain, Vegetation and Turf quality to the lowest settings for more visibility etc etc.

Good luck. The Biomask is a pretty sweet reward, especially if used with thermals.

[Tres]

I know that the fight itself is not hard thank you very much...
Its just extremly boring, way too drawn out, anticlimactic and generally not fun.
With that said, if damage is actually not tracked but its the number of hits I probably concider a different approach.
Thanks to the lads who actually tried to help me out here

[tacoshy]

Oh and use the rebels both reinforments and decoy as meat shield.
He has some stages:

1st (100-75%) he decloak without firing
2nd (75-50%) he fires once after decloak
3rd (50-25%) he fires multiple shots after decloaking until hit.
4th (25-0%) he fires continuously and instantly respawns in another location after hitting.


Oh and if you hear him talking, he is behind you.

[Alan]

Цитата допису Tres:

So keep doing what I've been doing then?
Actually managed to kill it once but I didn't expect that I needed to run and was about one second short of escaping. I also counted my shots with the highest damage sniper I have and I came up to 18 give or take 1-2 shots that i missed or when my team actually managed to hit it.
So all in all its dancing around a tree/rock for 15 minutes until the attacks finally get more frequent and just hoping that the hit box has mercy on you.
Who thought that this would be an enjoyable mission? I can't imagine that even the most die-hard Alien vs. Predator fans would find this tideous garbage fun....
Is there at least some kind of reward for dealing with this disgrace of gamedesign?

Great mission, very enjoyable fight, awesome soundtrack. When you manage to beat it and sooth your apparently shattered rectum you probably won't hate it as much.

[Tres]

Цитата допису BravoAlphaRomeo:

Great mission, very enjoyable fight, awesome soundtrack. When you manage to beat it and sooth your apparently shattered rectum you probably won't hate it as much.

Beaten it, still a very poorly designed mission, that I absolutly hate... For reasons I already stated.
I seriously can not see how one would enjoy this fight but, to each their own...

[Alan]

Цитата допису Tres:

Цитата допису BravoAlphaRomeo:

Great mission, very enjoyable fight, awesome soundtrack. When you manage to beat it and sooth your apparently shattered rectum you probably won't hate it as much.

Beaten it, still a very poorly designed mission, that I absolutly hate... For reasons I already stated.
I seriously can not see how one would enjoy this fight but, to each their own...

I'm really not sure what we could've wanted more from a free Predator themed mission in a Ghost Recon game. You walk around, look at Predator stuff, and fight a Predator while you listen to some of the greatest cinematic score of all time. He's a bullet sponge, yeah, but it'd be way more disappointing to 420noscopeheadshot him once with the HTI and that's it.

We could start at square one though; Do you like Predator, as a movie/character?

[GogglezDoNuffin]

He tanked way too much bullets and from the looks of it, he only takes dmg from first bullet anyway, Predator is far from that kind of bullet tanking. It would've been okay mission, if it weren't him eating so many bullets. Does he even use melee attacks or his blade like in the movies?

Actual fight was boring and tedious, rest were well made.

[Tres]

Цитата допису BravoAlphaRomeo:

I'm really not sure what we could've wanted more from a free Predator themed mission in a Ghost Recon game. You walk around, look at Predator stuff, and fight a Predator while you listen to some of the greatest cinematic score of all time. He's a bullet sponge, yeah, but it'd be way more disappointing to 420noscopeheadshot him once with the HTI and that's it.

We could start at square one though; Do you like Predator, as a movie/character?

Of course it shouldnt be a simple grunt to kill like any other. And as I said the preparation for the fight was good. Just the actual fight itself is garbage. Also I dont see how my liking of this character would be relevant in rating the game design of this mission. It could have been Darth Vader, Sauron, GlaDos, Diablo, or anyone else. That does not change the way the mission plays out.
And regarding your question what else we could have expected from a free Predator themed mission.... It shouldnt be there to begin with. It is completly out of place. Doesnt fit, doesnt belong, and from what I can see serves no purpose for the world or the story.

Цитата допису GogglezDoNoffing:

He tanked way too much bullets and from the looks of it, he only takes dmg from first bullet anyway, Predator is far from that kind of bullet tanking. It would've been okay mission, if it weren't him eating so many bullets. Does he even use melee attacks or his blade like in the movies?

Actual fight was boring and tedious, rest were well made.

^ Basically what I said (or tried to say) is again said by this guy ^

[Ghostryderflyby]

I'm not sure why anybody liked this mission. I'm 0.2 seconds from rage quitting Ghost Recon because of this mission. I'm on try like 16, I gave up trying to set mines or anything else, am just using cover, not reviving teammates and letting them do that, and I'm just running around trees laying lead into this MOFO-POS, and I keep dying. This is probably my least favorite mission in any game in 30 years of PC gaming. Whoever thought this was fun, needs to be strung up and shot. (Not really, but holy frack this is the most aggravating mission in PC gaming history!!!!!) If Karma is real, whoever designed this crap, watch out, because a truck loaded with gasoline and explosives is due to drop on your head accidentally out of a C-5 Galaxy transport.

[Ghostryderflyby]

I'm on try like 30. I'm all but maxed out on skill points, I'm blasting through level 5 areas and Unidad like they are cannon fodder, I'm hugging trees, not exposing myself by reviving bot teammates, and I CAN NOT beat this mission. This is literally the most most aggravating/irritating/frustrating mission in the history of gaming, and that is not a good thing. Eat a sloppy hobo pud Ubisoft. I don't know who designed this, and decided it should be a story mission that is required to reach maximum security in this area, but it is NOT FUN, and whoever thought it would be, needs to be reassigned to kitchen patrol, permanentlly.