Huge performance drop with multiple monitors

[Baskert]

Used to play this game back when I had a single monitor and got perfectly acceptable performance (40-50's fps) on 1080p and medium settings. Recently added a second monitor to my desktop and for some reason the game now runs literally in the teens and below despite nothing else changing. Even lowest settings seem to not help at all.

Is this a known issue with this game? I have searched around online but cannot find anyone else reporting anything similar. My second monitor is not running any other applications or anything - the game is running full screen on my primary monitor with the other one just showing my desktop wallpaper. Would very much like to fix this as I was really enjoying the game up to this point.

[ovd_masterkey]

If you want help, than you have to give us more Information!? And it is not normal to use more than one Monitore, so it is clear that you can not find very much!

[Nite69]

what is your specs op? the game needs a 6 core, 12 thread chip or better to run smoothly, a 4 core, 8 thread or less will botleneck any GPU.

[ovd_masterkey]

Originally posted by Nite69:

what is your specs op? the game needs a 6 core, 12 thread chip or better to run smoothly, a 4 core, 8 thread or less will botleneck any GPU.

Yes, better 8 core / 8Thread, Hyper Threading will not help by the most games, it could be bad too, because virtual cores need management!

But this will always be the best, only older Games could not more and it will not help, but it helps to complete background tasks without disturbing the game!

But of course the dear Niete69 ahh Nite69 opens up a new battlefield because he can't read concentrated!

FPS problems only arise with the second monitor!

The question here is how he connected the second monitor, on the same graphics card or with two graphics cards?


PS Nite69: Have you thought about the importance of GPU load?

By the way, I dedicated an area to you in my guide: "The Hall of Fame!"

Originally posted by Nite69:

Originally posted by ovd_masterkey:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1989725030

nobody here wants to limit to 30fps, so quit posting that garbage

Originally posted by Nite69:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1999941716

also ignore anything that ovd_masterkey says, his stupid guide wants everyone to cap the game to 30fps

Originally posted by ovd_masterkey:

Originally posted by Nite69:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1999941716

Your benchmark with 45 - 57 FPS and 97% GPU load is very bad !!

If you only have 45 - 57 FPS on a 60hz monitor, then everyone who has only a little bit of technology understanding should understand that by doubling 30FPS, sending every picture twice, you get a nicer, smoother picture than when filling up 45 - 57 FPS to 60FPS !?

And you never want 97% GPU load, because it will give you stutter over temperature or over OVER LOAD!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1989725030

Originally posted by Nite69:

No its not, You have no idea what you are talking about so just stop

stutter is not caused by High GPU usage, its caused by a slow hardrive, lack of system ram, or lack of video ram, or occasionnaly bad drivers which is why I use 441.87 and not the crappy 442's

a Game is suppose to run with max GPU usage always to get the max performance out of the video card, and CPU usage should never ever reach 100% at any point this gives you overhead so the GPU is not bottlenecked

if you have high GPU temperture then you have ♥♥♥♥ airflow in your computer case, failing GPU fan, or some other reason (again no issue here)

also you can run any fps below the monitor refresh rate if you set Nvidia control panel to adaptive vsync, I mentioned this to you already.

Originally posted by ovd_masterkey:

Each of your statements is wrong and your incompetence is only exceeded by your insolence to forbid my mouth!
If you stop spreading your tangled fantasies, I will stop!

1) "stutter is not caused by High GPU usage, its caused by a slow hardrive, lack of system ram, or lack of video ram, or occasionnaly bad drivers which is why I use 441.87 and not the crappy 442's"

--------> or by Over Load and to high Temperature

And enumerating things does not negate my statement!!!!!

2)"a Game is suppose to run with max GPU usage always to get the max performance out of the video card, and CPU usage should never ever reach 100% at any point this gives you overhead so the GPU is not bottlenecked"

-------> very wrong, less is better!

I will give you an example:

if, as a hypothesis, you set the conquest of 1000 meters as a work task, the duration in which you complete the route is irrelevant, only the conquest counts. Only in a race would speed or time be interesting!!

3) "if you have high GPU temperture then you have ♥♥♥♥ airflow in your computer case, failing GPU fan, or some other reason (again no issue here)"

-------> very wrong, look at thermodynamics laws!

the more work you do, the more heat there is. The more heat, the higher the risk of Over Load or heat stroke!
Sure, the more cooling the better you can cope with high temperatures, but that's why heat is far from good!

4) "also you can run any fps below the monitor refresh rate if you set Nvidia control panel to adaptive vsync, I mentioned this to you already."

----------> very wrong, and I think I have told you, but I am not sure that you can read?

Vsync should always be avoided because it costs fps and generates input lag, but sometimes you have to use it, otherwise the image will tear.

But you do not understand what it means: VSync is the technology with which no matter how many fps frames you generate, only 60 are used, everything above is trimmed!

But if it is under 60, then this is no longer possible and then rule 2 applies: Everything that is below 60 FPS is trimmed to 30FPS and then doubled again!

Adaptive VSync only overrides rule 2 and allows it to fall below 60 FPS i.e. below 60FPS no Vsync!

With this you are disproved with real arguments in all of yours statement!
And I hereby request you, to stop!!!!!

[Wicked Sick]

"By the way, I dedicated an area to you in my guide: "The Hall of Fame!""


LOL

[ovd_masterkey]

Originally posted by Juliano:

"By the way, I dedicated an area to you in my guide: "The Hall of Fame!""


LOL

Criticism and debate ("Hall of Fame!") Part II is opened!

[Wicked Sick]

Originally posted by ovd_masterkey:

Originally posted by Juliano:

"By the way, I dedicated an area to you in my guide: "The Hall of Fame!""


LOL

Criticism and debate ("Hall of Fame!") Part II is opened!

Originally posted by ovd_masterkey:
And quite honestly the human eye hardly sees any difference with 30 or 60 FPS !!


I am sorry to tell you this because I can see how you like this game and how you wish for everyone to have a good experience with it, but you have to keep in mind that people who have an routine of playing games with a good FPS will not accept to limit themselves to 30 no matter what even more in this case here when many people is reporting that the game used to perform better before a certain patch.

I wonder if you must have been limiting yourself to 30 FPS for so long that you may have forgotten how it is to play at 60, or if you ever have played any game like that to say that there is no difference.

The guide can indeed help people that are struggling, but suggesting to someone who owns a 2080 to limit his game to 30 FPS is also an indication of how bad the optimization in this game is.

Maybe you should add to your phrases when you say stuff like this "Since the game WILL NOT be receiving a new patch because they are working on Breakpoint now, this is what I suggest you to do..." then proceed to post your guide and let them decide whether to take your approach to this problem.

That section "Hall of fame" you made is showing your immaturity when dealing with negative feedback and there is no reason for it to be there that is not to shame whoever opposed your ideas and add nothing to the guide to any person who decides to check it out.

[ovd_masterkey]

Originally posted by Juliano:

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Maybe you should add to your phrases when you say stuff like this "Since the game WILL NOT be receiving a new patch because they are working on Breakpoint now, this is what I suggest you to do..." then proceed to post your guide and let them decide whether to take your approach to this problem.
...............

It is unbelievable how incompetent some people are to filter the core of the fact.

I still can't understand that they or in this case you, don't understand me. I have tried so hard to make it understandable and have explained everything in detail several times and breaked every unconfirmed and purely emotional thesis with facts.
The only thing that comes from my opponents, I don't want to, is not so blah blah ...
Now again, to write down:

1. I never say anything without harden it with facts !!
So I will never make statements like that ..."Since the game WILL NOT be receiving a new patch because they are working on Breakpoint now...."! I would never write because it is not safe !! Well, I would not drive the other person over his "mouth" who says something like that because he is probably right!

2.I have played 1000 games with 60FPS, that's why I bought a GTX1080 and 90% of the games still work very well with my old processor and I'll use it as long as I'm happy with it!
And the 30FPS Tweak is an emergency solution or a compromise solution!

3. This is purely about facts, I hate this denial of facts and I hate it when someone like Trump says something without substance, something different today so tomorrow!

If you have no idea of ​​something, you shouldn't just say something!

Of course you can be wrong about one thing or another, but the men from my guide's "Hall of Fame" are 100% wrong in their statements.

Some things are objectively true or false, there is no room for feelings or wishes!

4. The hall of "fame" is in reality a hall of "shame", not because the others do not have my opinion, but because they are simply wrong and deny the reality and call others troll or noob, but are themselves totally incompetent and not even able to read a longer text or understand the difference between a statement and an argument und "holy" facts.

5. I have said several times and it is also in the guide, 60+ is better than 30frames if you can reach 60+ and it is your decision ....

From the Guide:
The final decision is up to you, but 30 FPS is absolutely sufficient to allow smooth gaming and is equal to playing at 60 FPS.

[Wicked Sick]

lol I am not reading that wall

[Rich]

I've been playing this for close to two years, and i've always had a triple monitor setup. I used to be able to run this game at max with a stable 60 fps, but then, after some update a couple of months back, I get poor performance. The game still runs at 60, but the occasional stutter and freeze lag, with drops to as low as 30.

So all in all, my performance decreased after some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ update, but its not related to multiple monitors. It might be in your case though, if it appear immediately after. Probably your gpu is insufficient.

[ovd_masterkey]

Originally posted by Juliano:

lol I am not reading that wall

Take care or you will land in the "hall"!!

[Wicked Sick]

Originally posted by ovd_masterkey:

Originally posted by Juliano:

lol I am not reading that wall

Take care or you will land in the "hall"!! :steamcrazy:

Oh my1 Thatwould be the end of my world lol

Imagine, someone is having trouble to run the game smoothly. Somehow, they stumble upon a guide that suggests to play with everything on low and to cap your fps at 30 and there's also a hall of fame because the author is delusional enough to trully believe that there's no difference between 30 and 60 fps "That sectio nreally helped :D"


Take care lol That's was good xD

[ovd_masterkey]

Originally posted by Juliano:

Originally posted by ovd_masterkey:

Take care or you will land in the "hall"!! :steamcrazy:

Oh my1 Thatwould be the end of my world lol

Imagine, someone is having trouble to run the game smoothly. Somehow, they stumble upon a guide that suggests to play with everything on low and to cap your fps at 30 and there's also a hall of fame because the author is delusional enough to trully believe that there's no difference between 30 and 60 fps "That sectio nreally helped :D"


Take care lol That's was good xD

A little bit in, but still over!

Imagine someone is having trouble making the game run smoothly. Somehow they come across a tutorial that suggests playing with everything at Ultra and just limiting the fps to 30, and there's also a Hall of Fame because the author knows there is only a small difference between 30 and 60+ fps there, especially if you don't get 60+ or 60 only with 800x600 and set everything to low!
And then there are always posts of people that always want to misunderstand everything or simply have too little brain to read!



From the Guide:

With 30 FPS I can get max 63% CPU usage instead of max 95%!

With 30FPS you can increase or even stretch almost all other parameters to Ultra, only your graphics card is the limit!

Here my "Ultra" setting: (2560x1440DSR Nvidia)

Resolution: 2560 x 1440------> DSR Nvidia on 1920x1080 Monitor
Resolution Scaling: 1.00 -----> If you go to 0.7 you can use with 4GB

Window Mode: FullScreen
Refresh Rate: 60
VSYNC: Off -------------------> or Adaptive and 31 FPS per Driver!
Framerate Limit: 30 -----------> or off and Nvidia Profil Inspector with 31FPS....
Graphics Preset: Custom
Antialiasing Mode: TEMPORAL AA
Ambient Occlusion: None
Draw Distance: Very High
Level of Detail: Ultra
Texture Quality: Ultra
Anisotropic Filtering: 16
Shadow Quality: High
Terrain Quality: Ultra
Vegetation Quality: High
Turf Effects: Off
Motion Blur: Off
Iron Sights DOF: Off
High Quality DOF: On
Bloom: Off
Godrays: On
Sub Surface Scattering: Off
Lens Flare: On
Long Range Shadows: Off

[Wicked Sick]

Originally posted by ovd_masterkey:

Originally posted by Juliano:

Oh my1 Thatwould be the end of my world lol

Imagine, someone is having trouble to run the game smoothly. Somehow, they stumble upon a guide that suggests to play with everything on low and to cap your fps at 30 and there's also a hall of fame because the author is delusional enough to trully believe that there's no difference between 30 and 60 fps "That sectio nreally helped :D"


Take care lol That's was good xD

A little bit in, but still over!

Imagine someone is having trouble making the game run smoothly. Somehow they come across a tutorial that suggests playing with everything at Ultra and just limiting the fps to 30, and there's also a Hall of Fame because the author knows there is only a small difference between 30 and 60+ fps there, especially if you don't get 60+ or 60 only with 800x600 and set everything to low!
And then there are always posts of people that always want to misunderstand everything or simply have too little brain to read!

Take a lot of care lol That's was good xD


From the Guide:

With 30 FPS I can get max 63% CPU usage instead of max 95%!

With 30FPS you can increase or even stretch almost all other parameters to Ultra, only your graphics card is the limit!

Here my "Ultra" setting: (2560x1440DSR Nvidia)

Resolution: 2560 x 1440------> DSR Nvidia on 1920x1080 Monitor
Resolution Scaling: 1.00 -----> If you go to 0.7 you can use with 4GB

Window Mode: FullScreen
Refresh Rate: 60
VSYNC: Off -------------------> or Adaptive and 31 FPS per Driver!
Framerate Limit: 30 -----------> or off and Nvidia Profil Inspector with 31FPS....
Graphics Preset: Custom
Antialiasing Mode: TEMPORAL AA
Ambient Occlusion: None
Draw Distance: Very High
Level of Detail: Ultra
Texture Quality: Ultra
Anisotropic Filtering: 16
Shadow Quality: High
Terrain Quality: Ultra
Vegetation Quality: High
Turf Effects: Off
Motion Blur: Off
Iron Sights DOF: Off
High Quality DOF: On
Bloom: Off
Godrays: On
Sub Surface Scattering: Off
Lens Flare: On
Long Range Shadows: Off

What an amount of crap xD

[ovd_masterkey]

Originally posted by Juliano:

Oh my1 Thatwould be the end of my world lol

Imagine, someone is having trouble to run the game smoothly. Somehow, they stumble upon a guide that suggests to play with everything on low and to cap your fps at 30 and there's also a hall of fame because the author is delusional enough to trully believe that there's no difference between 30 and 60 fps "That sectio nreally helped :D"


Take care lol That's was good xD

What an amount of crap xD

Yes exactly!!

And I can congratulate you, you are in!

Welcome, Bienvenue mesdames et messieurs!

Criticism and debate ("Hall of Fame!") Part III is opened!   XXL- LOL


And here is information for people who don't like to read too much!

And this matrix is only for people with problems!
No problem - no need to do!

- Matrix of game setting for Hardware consuming Games:

                                |     Multiplayer - PVP                    Singelplayer - Coop - PvE
                                |                            
Limit to                   |           60FPS                                           30FPS
                                |                            
Most Settings         |             Low                                              Ultra
                                |                           
VSync                     |              Off                                              On / Off
                                |                           
Optic                       |          Spartan                                 Playful / Luxuriant
                                |