Enjoyed the game but that ending really sucked..(spoiler warning)

[Apocolyptica]

I mean go through all those missions and the whole time looking forward to killing El Sueno only to have Bowman, a frigging NPC do it. I mean was there a meeting that decided to come up with the most anti-climatic way possible to end the game? Very disappointed..

[TH3_SCHW4RTZ]

Lack of player agency aside, it's still a better ending than the "good" ending.

[CursedPanther]

Bowman was the operation chief after all, and you're just the grunt doing the heavy lifting.

[Hawk]

It was just bad writing through and through that and some of the worst voice acting that I've ever heard in a so called "AAA" title.

Once you find out why the US embassy was bombed Nomad and his team agree that no matter what El Sueno dies. What should have happened is that since you and your team do not exist you can do whatever you want and to be fair that was going to be the original basis for the game a choose your own path type of thing but being Ubisoft that was "too complex for them" and they ditched it. That would have been a far more believable ending, Nomad kills El Sueno and that is it and since you don't exist you don't really answer to anyone or you simply stay in Bolivia and help fix the country or run it yourself who knows. Again it shouldn't have taken a team of writers to actually come up with a better ending then the two that we got. They are inconsistent and poorly written at best.

[CursedPanther]

Hawk の投稿を引用：

It was just bad writing through and through that and some of the worst voice acting that I've ever heard in a so called "AAA" title.

Sometimes I wonder what people really mean by terrible voice acting in games.

Is it becuz:
A) the voice actor reads his/her lines with a flat tone and completely lacks emotion? Or
B) there is actually too much emotion in it and the whole thing becomes over dramatic? Or
C) the voice actor simply has a different voice the player expects outta the game character

Personally I don't find any of the above to be the case here in GRW and the actors does what is necessary well. I don't speak South American Spanish so maybe some of you find the accents at certain points in the game wrong or something. Bottom line, think real hard again if you're expecting Oscar or Emmy level of performance outta a video game. No one is paying or being paid for that tier of talent for this field of work yet.

As for the script of the story, it's enough to explain your purpose in virtual Bolivia so I ain't complaining either.

[Hawk]

CursedPanther の投稿を引用：

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VOs in this title that are financed by a multibillion dollar publisher it's kind of pathetic really. Prefect example, Witcher series, then compare it to this and you'll understand, or maybe you won't because you're shilling for Ubisoft who knows. Either way you'd have to be deaf not to be able to tell the difference between voice actors who can barely give a single squirt of urine of effort and ones who actually want to portray their character in a positive fashion or just do a good job. Also yes a script does also have a fairly major part in how characters are developed however it's up to the talent of the voice actor to bring that character to life. This title has none of those things. Good voice acting can make or break a game that is why some are remembered while others are quickly forgotten.

Funny how you say "No one is being paid for that tier of talent" well you're technically correct, normally VOs get paid very little and tend to be looked down upon by TV and movie actors. Yet you get games like ME, Witcher, Dues Ex, heck a good VO can bring to life, emotion and character to what used to be a pixilated face like B.J. Blazkowicz. I'd say it is you who need to expect MORE from the studios who shove millions into these titles and this is the best that they can offer. Yet lesser studios continually prove that no you don't need just money to throw at the problem, you need to have genuin passion and care for the project. Again you do not seem to care or get it as you're clearly a shill for anyone who's willing to take your money and treat you like a wallet and that's fine but don't try and pretend that you know anything.

As far as the actual subject at hand, again the ending isn't well written or well done and it would have taken almost no effort to have actually gone through with the original idea and all of the character interactions that you’ve had across the entire game. Along with the ending that you saw OP there's a "second ending" which only happens upon your SECOND playthrough for some odd reason, and that only triggers if you have caused the maximum of collapse of the SB cartel and it's even worse or equally bad as the ending that you saw. It was a total cop out.

[CursedPanther]

Yea I stopped at 'you're shilling'. Typical weak response whenever some voices disagreement on the Internet.

[Hawk]

CursedPanther の投稿を引用：

Yea I stopped at 'you're shilling'. Typical weak response whenever some voices disagreement on the Internet.

Funny I pretty much stopped respecting your "opinion" when you told me what to expect from companies who make millions. Isn't that odd? Which is weird because you have all of those games that I listed or most of them but... you came here to defend this game's script and VOs for... some reason, despite that not being the main subject of the thread, again very odd, almost like you're trying to defend something for some reason.

Get back to me when you have actual facts and data or even a proper argument or leg to stand on in order to support your claims before you call my response "weak".

[CursedPanther]

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CursedPanther の投稿を引用：

Yea I stopped at 'you're shilling'. Typical weak response whenever some voices disagreement on the Internet.

Funny I pretty much stopped respecting your "opinion" when you told me what to expect from companies who make millions. Isn't that odd? Which is weird because you have all of those games that I listed or most of them but... you came here to defend this game's script and VOs for... some reason, despite that not being the main subject of the thread, again very odd, almost like you're trying to defend something for some reason.

Get back to me when you have actual facts and data or even a proper argument or leg to stand on in order to support your claims before you call my response "weak".

Not taking the bait cuz it stinks.

Try harder.

[Barrack Obama]

The campaign as a whole felt like side missions. The story wasn't put together very well. You dont get to know your squad, your character, etc. It's just the one blonde chick in the shack and a bunch of random drug dealers with no story.

Why even involve the campaign? lol