Remove Ayano

[AaroWill]

Do you guys think Sad Panda should remove Ayano from the game entirely?

The main reason is because of the recent drama with the Yandere Dev.
Let's just say he.... won't be finishing his game anymore.

EDIT: Read MollyOKami's message, it'll save you the trouble

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[Kpopalypse]

This thread is a very big case of the Streisand Effect.

[PurpleKingCrazy]

Początkowo opublikowane przez iKarr:

Początkowo opublikowane przez BirbNotBird:

Please keep this thread inactive, thank you. You don't need to put more echo of past opinions, whether similar or different.

The game doesn't need our inputs whether Ayano still exist or not. You can scroll up and read MollyOKami, and that is the best insight I have ever read. And once again, I beg anyone read this, let this ridiculousness of a thread stays silent and never go up.

You tell me please and then you tell me, how my opinion is an echo. I find that insulting! I'm entitled to my own opinion on this. I also find it slanderous telling me to stop bumping the thread.

The game doesn't need this users inputs about Ayano. baw! Well, YandereDev caused controversy. the character in the game was like a treat for him, so I'm not surprised someone put the idea to remove the character which is a reference to his game. It's your opinion if you think MollyOKami concluded what people want. It's an insight, you've said it yourself. I don't think it best explains why.

You even beg people to stop reading, I've never seen that before. It's your opinion if you think it's ridiculous to remove the character. I've even suggested to re-design the character, so it's no where near what the original suggestion of what this thread was aiming for, so I don't know which post you're responding too.

After more research on the character, I also discovered that Ayano is based off a Unity graphic asset which is set to be changed by YandereDev, too. So that suggests something and it should be noticed. You're saying it's ridiculous, it seems smart to me, or anyone with common scene for anyone to notice that, if Ayano was based of a Unity graphic asset.

Even if your opinions matter the most, I would generally believe the community would think otherwise. And even if these allegations are coming as true, I really don't think it's up to Sad Panda Studios to officially cancel/destroy Ayano, discontinuing the storyline we had around other characters influenced by her, and starred awesome interactions based on her antics on the game itself.

Those interactions whether you like it or not are very timeless and considered worthy to keep despite the ambitions of some dev ruining the character or the company having such an asset. The point is if the dev of Sad Panda would keep this character in response to the community, and unfortunately, I still agree with Miami that Cancel Culture is a sick trash to unperson even a fictional video game character such as her.

I even put Ayano at a reasonable S tier to prove a point of someone who has the most fun interactions and keeping her personality to a T despite the negative appeal of a character who acts like a serial killer on the inside.

EDIT: Ok maybe I did get a bit carried away with the drama inside for a moment. I can see now where the point started with this other discussion but I'll leave it at this.

[BirbNotBird]

Początkowo opublikowane przez iKarr:

You tell me please and then you tell me, how my opinion is an echo. I find that insulting! I'm entitled to my own opinion on this. I also find it slanderous telling me to stop bumping the thread.

Let me be brutally honest, you can spend your time reading 124 commets until my post and tell me, would your case fall into what had mentioned by users on this specific thread?

My point still stands, this thread has exhausted all possibilities without anything new or meaningful, and may turn into whatever nonsensical. And it's you who feel the need to find me after 13 days since 5 Nov.

If you feel that insulting, then I have nothing to say beside sucking it up. I have never post with intention of having a beef, constructive rather. I have never beg anyone to stop reading, you make the lies about me as naturally as you probably not spending a dime on reading my posts.

Ah and last point I think it's necessary to say, I never want to send some jester awards on you, I'm a hoarder who won't spend a dime on awarding people that doesn't deserve it. So congratulation, you are showing people that your pettiness can remain for days.

Please do both of us favors and stop tagging me as I respectfully spend my time to respond than ghost you over a personal argument.

[iKarr]

Początkowo opublikowane przez PurpleKingCrazy:

Even if your opinions matter the most, I would generally believe the community would think otherwise. And even if these allegations are coming as true, I really don't think it's up to Sad Panda Studios to officially cancel/destroy Ayano, discontinuing the storyline we had around other characters influenced by her, and starred awesome interactions based on her antics on the game itself.

The point is if the dev of Sad Panda would keep this character in response to the community, and unfortunately, I still agree with Miami that Cancel Culture is a sick trash to unperson even a fictional video game character such as her.

I didn't suggest to remove or cancel the character. I just posted a mere opinion unless i was spot on. I said re-designed. That's not cancelling the character in any way!

Początkowo opublikowane przez BirbNotBird:

Let me be brutally honest, you can spend your time reading 124 commets until my post and tell me, would your case fall into what had mentioned by users on this specific thread?

My point still stands, this thread has exhausted all possibilities without anything new or meaningful, and may turn into whatever nonsensical. And it's you who feel the need to find me after 13 days since 5 Nov.

If you feel that insulting, then I have nothing to say beside sucking it up. I have never post with intention of having a beef, constructive rather. I have never beg anyone to stop reading, you make the lies about me as naturally as you probably not spending a dime on reading my posts.

Ah and last point I think it's necessary to say, I never want to send some jester awards on you, I'm a hoarder who won't spend a dime on awarding people that doesn't deserve it. So congratulation, you are showing people that your pettiness can remain for days.

Please do both of us favors and stop tagging me as I respectfully spend my time to respond than ghost you over a personal argument.

Stop putting words in my mouth. That's what you're clearly doing, thinking you're wasting your own time, trying to halt what I'm trying to make as a simple opinion. Am I or anyone allow their own opinion?! Whatever I suggested or pointed out, re-design and you're crashing up against me? I wonder why! I'm slowly beginning to think YandereDev sent you to just rail or fix the situation so maybe the developer of this game looks bad, if they decide to keep the character, as is! Who knows what kind of impact Ayano has, to what it did to YandereDev and you're suggesting "Nah, don't think about it! Not much of a concern". I think it's wise to seriously think about how the character impacts the players because I don't want to end up like YandereDev with what was trying to do.

Have your last say. Keep posting to insult everyone's intelligence because that's exactly what you're doing. You know I have a point or maybe given away the answer. I've said what I had to say. I don't blame some of the other posts suggest just to not play the character as a quick fix, with seems fine but then it makes me wonder how that message gets to the new players. It goes to everyone else who wants to grind up against me just because I suggested or said "I wouldn't be surprised if Ayano got re-designed!" Have your last say!

[BirbNotBird]

Początkowo opublikowane przez iKarr:

Stop putting words in my mouth. That's what you're clearly doing, thinking you're wasting your own time, trying to halt what I'm trying to make as a simple opinion. Am I or anyone allow their own opinion?! Whatever I suggested or pointed out, re-design and you're crashing up against me? I wonder why! I'm slowly beginning to think YandereDev sent you to just rail or fix the situation so maybe the developer of this game looks bad, if they decide to keep the character, as is! Who knows what kind of impact Ayano has, to what it did to YandereDev and you're suggesting "Nah, don't think about it! Not much of a concern". I think it's wise to seriously think about how the character impacts the players because I don't want to end up like YandereDev with what was trying to do.

Have your last say. Keep posting to insult everyone's intelligence because that's exactly what you're doing. You know I have a point or maybe given away the answer. I've said what I had to say. I don't blame some of the other posts suggest just to not play the character as a quick fix, with seems fine but then it makes me wonder how that message gets to the new players. It goes to everyone else who wants to grind up against me just because I suggested or said "I wouldn't be surprised if Ayano got re-designed!" Have your last say!

Honestly dude, just do yourself a favor and read your words.

You are calling out on things that I didn't say, and accussing me with some sorts of conspiracies. You are trying to gaslight here.

I already done you a favor by never comment on this again until you felt the need to call me out. Seriously, for 13 days, you could do something better, like refining your opinions and you spend time to formulate a specific paragraph aiming for me only.

I advise again, do a favor and stop picking a fight with me. It's your fault if you get insulted from nothingness.

[Talyc Verda]

Początkowo opublikowane przez iKarr:

You even beg people to stop reading, I've never seen that before. It's your opinion if you think it's ridiculous to remove the character. I've even suggested to re-design the character, so it's no where near what the original suggestion of what this thread was aiming for, so I don't know which post you're responding too.

Re-design likely isnt even an option for SPS due to Ayano being a licensed character.

[iKarr]

Początkowo opublikowane przez BirbNotBird:

Honestly dude, just do yourself a favor and read your words.

You are calling out on things that I didn't say, and accussing me with some sorts of conspiracies. You are trying to gaslight here.

I already done you a favor by never comment on this again until you felt the need to call me out. Seriously, for 13 days, you could do something better, like refining your opinions and you spend time to formulate a specific paragraph aiming for me only.

I advise again, do a favor and stop picking a fight with me. It's your fault if you get insulted from nothingness.

That's your opinion, at least I participate or try to participate, whichever one you prefer. All you're doing is "stop this thread!". Is the thread locked since you've posted!? No and it doesn't suggest something to you and I'm the idiot?! Thanks for taking my advice on having your last post. You don't sound very good. I'm getting insulted because you're getting in the way. Nothing to do with me! You even admit you're harassing me, so I don't think it was best for you to bring that up!

I'm not embarrassing myself if BirbNotBird keeps telling me not to get involved. I think he needs to fix his spelling, it's "accusing", not "accussing". At least get that right if he's serious that I've made a "conspiracy theory" in regards to him, BirbNotBird. That's what it looks like. If you feel gaslit, you're not participating and I get into trouble if you don't participate, that why I'm addressing whatever to you, if you feel gaslit!

Początkowo opublikowane przez Talyc Verda:

Początkowo opublikowane przez iKarr:

You even beg people to stop reading, I've never seen that before. It's your opinion if you think it's ridiculous to remove the character. I've even suggested to re-design the character, so it's no where near what the original suggestion of what this thread was aiming for, so I don't know which post you're responding too.

Re-design likely isnt even an option for SPS due to Ayano being a licensed character.

Are you telling me that this company got the license of Ayano from whoever owns the Unity license, I think they wouldn't get that far. Don't make sense to me! Not what's out there. Not at all. I don't think the Unity asset person is forcing this developer to feature the character. I'm not here to try to outsmart people because it's not obvious and even BirbBotBird said to me "Don't tell anyone to remove this character" and redesigning doesn't remove the character entirely. The thread clearly says to remove the character and I was putting out the term re-design. That's all. Seems a bit extreme not to tweak or change the look for the character.

From my experience, there are loads of reasons why, even when I suggest it being redesigned, wouldn't happen, obviously because of the Yandere Sim development "time" but then it would go to simply remove the character or redesigning it significantly where it doesn't look like the character but then, how does anyone know YandereDev is being lazy and go out of their way to copy the design to model into his game, if this game did redesign it and released it as a patch?! It's just doing the work for him.

Personally, it just adds why I think it's interesting because this is a finished game and YandereDev hasn't finished his game and caused a design challenge for both developments. Doesn't seem right for YandereDev to watch as he focuses on his game when it's unfinished, so I'm not surprised if people are sitting and watching what his developers going to do about it or how the entire situation unfold. It seems unfair for a game developer who releases a finished game when a game developer hasn't finished his and puts out bad news, very unfair. I'm saying it because BirbNotBird doesn't understand!

I'll make this my last comment but I just think it's funny that I put whatever out there and someone like BirbNotBird comes in and tells me "you don't deserve an opinion". It's just becomes a cons and to simply cheat me out to put out more to what I know and how to handle situations like. BirbNotBird doesn't help if he keeps hitting me below the belt! He's done no one, any favors from what I've seen in this thread, yet!

And, no I don't feel bad bumping his thread and addressing that, even after how many days since it last happened. Design work is commitment and that's why there's careers in the design field, it's not just reacting to the news, all the time and moving on, like BirbNotBird maybe does!

[BirbNotBird]

Początkowo opublikowane przez iKarr:

Whatever you mentioned me

I came and left my opinion, and that's it. Reading my posts since Nov 18, have any line come off as "shutting down your voice"?

You told me I felt gaslighted, but clearly, what you wrote contradicted with my posts. I stated that people who read this, you said I forced people not to read this. I haven't admitted that I harassed you since I never do, you made it up in your recent post.

Please stop with obsessing over me on this mess and continue with your participation.

Ayano is a Yandev property, sure, people have different opinions about them. Sad Panda is the one who has the final say, and let say they have been radio silence. It's devs, not me or you, but feel free to explore your opinions. Keep in mind redesigning character just cost way more, and Ayano hasn't get many new assets since years. No phone, no new outfits, except her voicelines at new girls.

Unity assets are weird, and I think CC's Ayano is some sorts of weird loopholes since her assets are somewhat original in art drawing, except her IP - which is the cause of this thread, and realistically, Unity assets. This comes clashing with Unity's guideline.

Give me a thought on this. I still believe your idea is still similar to people before, not that I'm going to shut it down like century ago.

Look, we are free to have our opinions, even if it's clashing at the moment. You and a few people want to change her design, and bunch of us don't, it's simply is life. There always be different idea, you don't need to get personal insulted about it.

Keep in mind of your writing and response also, it's really just come out as getting upset easily. No one will take you seriously, as long as you can get triggered over your own assumption of something I never do.

I will leave my final say here, you do your own. Peace.

[Talyc Verda]

Początkowo opublikowane przez iKarr:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Talyc Verda:

Re-design likely isnt even an option for SPS due to Ayano being a licensed character.

Are you telling me that this company got the license of Ayano from whoever owns the Unity license, I think they wouldn't get that far. Don't make sense to me! Not what's out there. Not at all. I don't think the Unity asset person is forcing this developer to feature the character. I'm not here to try to outsmart people because it's not obvious and even BirbBotBird said to me "Don't tell anyone to remove this character" and redesigning doesn't remove the character entirely. The thread clearly says to remove the character and I was putting out the term re-design. That's all. Seems a bit extreme not to tweak or change the look for the character.

No, the person who made the asset has noting to do with this.

When you purchase a game store asset, you basically have a license to whatever the hell you want with that asset. Hence why if you look at either Itch.io or even here on Steam, you could 500 different games made by 500 different devs, all using the same asset.

In the case of a character model. When a dev purchase the model uses it in a game, they then hold a license to the character they created with that model.

The same applies to YandereDev. (Keep in mind, this assuming he even brought the asset in the first place) So the license SPS has is for the character of Ayano as created by YandereDev. Meaning any attempt to re-design her would likely be a breach of contract on the part of SPS. Its probably a similar situation with removing his twitter handle from Ayano's movie date.

[iKarr]

I'll say I'll make my comment the last but I'm not going to keep my word and continue this. I'm not going to let someone who looks like he just came out of YandereDev's discord and ruin what I say on these Steam boards.

Początkowo opublikowane przez BirbNotBird:

but clearly, what you wrote contradicted with my posts.

Please stop with obsessing over me on this mess and continue with your participation.

I will leave my final say here, you do your own. Peace. :happyquill:

Whatever you say! I contradicted myself yet you tell me to stop bumping the thread, then I have to tell you the reality of it, then you tell me to continue participating like you never said to stop bumping the thread. You're only marking me like hypocrite on me because you're got caught out. I don't think you've done favors be to honest. None at all.

Yeah, I'll have my final say, thanks. You clearly got what you wanted. "Oh, stop bumping the thread!". like weeks ago. I didn't sub to this thread and was only bought to my attention, can't blame me to being triggered to what you had posted.

I've read your posts, previous posts. Everyone's post. You made it out, like this developer doesn't care. I have mentioned, this is classed as a finished game and you're wondering why this developers doesn't do anything like give up? it's easy, YandereDev still working on his game and could take whatever this game does if they went to change the character.

I'm not trying to kick a man when he's down. YandereDev slipped up and taken whatever he did too far and I could see why the ideas is out to remove the character but it's not easy then that and it doesn't help when he has a reputation, a struggling indie developer to try and think about this. I'm not surprised if it test anyone's patience. Everyone wonder "Hey Sad Panda, what are you going to do?!" and then there's no response.

With my experience and the reality, it's more like geared to it being redesigned. For how long? I don't know, maybe just another poly from YandereDev, who knows! Stalling, maybe!

Początkowo opublikowane przez Talyc Verda:

No, the person who made the asset has noting to do with this.

This person who made the asset has nuthing to do with this? To be honest, I only threw it out to see what responses to what's been said. It is interesting how YandereDev got a chance to make one of the characters into this game and it barely changed from the asset. I've never seen that before and it don't seem right! I think the person who made the asset is just as interesting to see what comes out of it, to be honest then anyone of us here. I don't want to bring him up but I think it's funny!

[Long Bottom Leaf]

This thread is actually still going.......................

No they shouldn't remove a basic anime/manga trope character because it was a collaboration with Yandere SIm from like 5 years ago. Guess what, HE WAS ALWAYS A CREEP, WE ALREADY KNEW!!!! Just because you are only now finding out about it doesn't mean Sad Panda Studios needs to make you feel better morally. Actually just move on, it's a common trope. Get over it. This argument feels exactly like the guns in video games cause violence arguments people get into... At some point its just a trope or a game play mechanic and you need to move on.

[iKarr]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Long Bottom Leaf:

This thread is actually still going.......................

No they shouldn't remove a basic anime/manga trope character because it was a collaboration with Yandere SIm from like 5 years ago. Guess what, HE WAS ALWAYS A CREEP, WE ALREADY KNEW!!!! Just because you are only now finding out about it doesn't mean Sad Panda Studios needs to make you feel better morally. Actually just move on, it's a common trope. Get over it. This argument feels exactly like the guns in video games cause violence arguments people get into... At some point its just a trope or a game play mechanic and you need to move on.

I'm not going to lie, I have actually taken the time to look into it and I see what's going on but I would prefer if someone like BirbNotBird would have said something, if he feels if he ran the thread with his say, telling everyone to shut up. I'm aware Yandere is a bit wacko, not something I want to post here and how he deals with but he did cross the line and it's very uncertain how his situation is going to pan out. Loads of reasons.

I just said ONE WORD. That word being REDESIGN and then I'm getting blasted here. Something not right here!Nothing to do with me. Telling me to move on. I'll keep the discussions in the offices then! Thanks to whoever has been giving me community awards, while I'm here!

Please, don't blast and belittle me when I move on because that's what BirbNotBird did! Look, it's right here with trivial matters:

Początkowo opublikowane przez BirbNotBird:

Please keep this thread inactive, thank you. You don't need to put more echo of past opinions, whether similar or different.

The game doesn't need our inputs whether Ayano still exist or not. You can scroll up and read MollyOKami, and that is the best insight I have ever read. And once again, I beg anyone read this, let this ridiculousness of a thread stays silent and never go up.

Best of luck to him!