Lesbian Girl

[NeotokyoNoob]

Are all the girls straight in this game?

I would really like to see some more non-straight girls who would friendzone my ass like a champ just like in real life *sob*

[frag2k4]

Yes and no, your character can be male or female from the stats tab, the game avoids for the most part using gendered language to describe mello to help this.

[NeotokyoNoob]

Have you seen Blush Blush yet?

I mean there could be a character that is only interested in other girls in the game.
Exact opposite of Ayano would be nice.
And to be honest. I didn't think I could switch genders myself in this game. Though Blush blush has the same option.

I just think It would fit well in the games style to make light of the age old male fantasy of having 3some with 2 lesbians. As in the final stage the girl would really seem to warm up only to have you sitting there watching 2 girls make out by themselves. Or something along those lines.

I am not a developer so what do I know anyway.

[frag2k4]

No haven't played BB nor will I because it doesn't suit my interests as a person.

But adding certain kinks sounds like a bad idea, seen enough games and discussion threads that quickly turn toxic over going down certain sexual paths. You only need to go searching for a thread on this forum regarding a certain recent phone fling to see that some people WILL throw down over cuckolding.

CC is surprisingly one of the less toxic groups in general and I think them doing what they are doing is far better to keep it that way.

[ArtemusGintry]

Actually, Nova is Bi-sexual from the phone flings that you have with her. as far as I can tell Karma, Sutra and the Dark one has these undertones.

[NeotokyoNoob]

Yeah, I agree with you on this one.
Can't fix what is not broken.

But I have always questioned the point in the complaining about additions unless nothing is taken and the option to rule it out is given for the sake of vanity.

It could be a LTE.
I don't want to go down the path of turning anything to argument of kinks or preferences.
Keep in mind that we are discussing about imaginary cartoon girls here.
No need to go full neckbeard mode. Your make-believe-waifu is in good hands with Sad Panda Studios, rest assured.

[frag2k4]

Originally posted by NeotokyoNoob:

Yeah, I agree with you on this one.
Can't fix what is not broken.

But I have always questioned the point in the complaining about additions unless nothing is taken and the option to rule it out is given for the sake of vanity.

It could be a LTE.
I don't want to go down the path of turning anything to argument of kinks or preferences.
Keep in mind that we are discussing about imaginary cartoon girls here.
No need to go full neckbeard mode. Your make-believe-waifu is in good hands with Sad Panda Studios, rest assured.

Agree, the issue is really too complex to break down in a steam thread but I would say it comes down to the concept of haves vs have nots.

I would have no issue with something like that as a paid (diamond or real world currency) girl, would likely get it for the lesbian thing myself because hey girl on girl. But the complaint comes down to someone having content that's 'exclusive' to certain interests, so they want content suited for themselves too.

But then this content is also accessible to those that had the exclusive stuff so their content isn't exclusive and further causes issues.

There was a character in the game HP2 that is very divisive in the fanbase, needless to say a mixture of twitter, a dev that tried too hard to appease everyone and a subject that is very much mired in controversy has lead to threads filled with idiots on all sides of the argument being toxic, I spent far too much time reporting people for death threats than I really needed too trying to keep it civil.

[NeotokyoNoob]

@frag2k4 I was just curious, because I tried BB and there is only one scene right a the beginning of the game that is somewhat threatening to fragile heterosexuals of male gender. But one can just blink for just a click to get it over with. So heed this as a warning.
But ultimately I really think you are judging a book by it's cover here:

Originally posted by frag2k4:

No haven't played BB nor will I because it doesn't suit my interests as a person.

I am not trying to get you to play BB, merely set the misconceptions right for you.
Just think if you were a straight girl playing CC. It's not shocking at all. If you count out that one scene at the beginning of the game. And it's only just a frame of art work.
All around well made game but, bit more spiced up with yaoi. Really mild. Like watching a episode of Friends. Not to spoil too much, in case you decide to get curious one day.

As you have said it the best here yourself:

I would have no issue with something like that as a paid (diamond or real world currency) girl, would likely get it for the lesbian thing myself because hey girl on girl.

For myself, I would just really like to see what I saw in my time in BB and bring it to CC style.
But seeing as someone clearheaded as you are opposing this right before even getting the right picture, I really start to believe this thread is a stillborn.

[Talyc Verda]

Personally, while I would largely agree with what you have both said, only have skimmed through that is. However, looking at it from the perspective of SPS, its much simpler to have the characters be either bi or straight.

For the type of game, to have a lesbian character, you have to go down one of two roads.
A) To have two different scenarios based on which gender the player is. Or B) have the player rejected wither way.

Now in the first option, while it wouldnt be as much work as it sounds, it would still be the same as if SPS were working on two characters. (Maybe a third depending on how they want to handle it.)

For the second option, while it would admittedly fit the games style better. There would be no way to go about it without upsetting people.

However, there is a third option that would still give people that "age old male fantasy of having threesome with two girls." And its one that has been done in the game. Have the characters crossover. Now sure, you cant really have any of the dateable crossover with one another without setting up a whole new system, or doing it through the phone flings.

And looking at it from a lore perspective, all these girls are meant to live in the same town. Meaning that atleast some of them should know one another. Something backed up by some of the girls appearing in SPS's visual novel Hush Hush. (Overlooking the fact that we dont know when Hush Hush is set.)

[NeotokyoNoob]

This thread has gone sideways in so many ways I lost count already. Please just let this die.

Before I sign off from here; I just really want to make couple of things absolutely clear here from my perspective.
In the start of the thread I was kidding about friendzone. It's just a stupid meme.

What I would really like to see is some more girlburgers, if you know what I mean ;)

Ayano is the best girl in the game so far. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
You may have your preferences or kinks but this is an undisputed fact. No discussion.

Lastly; to the main point, where the discussion really derailed from a simple query to ... I don't even know what to call this now ... Is a new lesbian girl that was pitched.

So as I stated earlier, Ayano is the best. But what I have in mind, in case I had to picture a new girl being introduced, would be interactive like Ayano, but instead of murderous mixed with jealously intents, she would go after other girls in game with the other kind of intent. While Ayano is obsessed with the protagonist. With this new lesbian girl the protagonist would appear to her as an antagonist.

But realizing the odds, this would never be possible. Too risky. Too many neckbeards would probably lose their ♥♥♥♥ if they got rejected by a cartoon girl and couldn't handle it.
While nobody even blinks an eye if Ayano murders a girl in their imaginary harem. Has anyone even paid any attention to what Pamu is like. One of the girl is voiced by a guy and probably all girls are drawn and scripted by a guy. Yes yes... getting "cucked" by a lesbian girl would be the final nail to the coffin of such a perfect fantasy game.

Just chill a bit will you?
Not everything has to always revolve around the protagonist.
Unconventional humor is a big part of the trademark charm of CC.

Continue from here if you want, but if you expect it to have any success. Do not! This is a trainwreck of a scale I have never witnessed before and I have been around for a good while.

[♥ Alan Redgown ♥]

“probably all girls are drawn ... by a guy” If you followed Sad Panda Studios over on YouTube, you’d see that that’s not the case. The Artist Panda is female. Not that it matters much, but I thought I’d point it out anyway.

[Dusk_Army]

Originally posted by ♥ Alan Redgown ♥:

“probably all girls are drawn ... by a guy” If you followed Sad Panda Studios over on YouTube, you’d see that that’s not the case. The Artist Panda is female. Not that it matters much, but I thought I’d point it out anyway.

Pamu also says it. Something along the lines of, "Is it weird that all my dialogue was written by a guy? Don't worry; a girl drew me." I'm seriously paraphrasing it, though,

[NeotokyoNoob]

I am well aware Sad Panda Studios employs women. As you said it yourself too, that's well beyond the point. It's still largely a work of fiction.

It's just too funny to not to point out that the game includes:
Murder
Demons
Monsters
A freaking cross-dressing BEAR
Lesbians. Wait. My bad. We can't have that. No lesbians.

Somehow Blush blush has gays from the intro onwards.
But it's fine. I am done with this thread. We don't deserve lesbians in Crush Crush.

Maybe Blush blush could recycle the idea of interactive character like Ayano who is gay.
Since it doesn't have one yet. But that would be a whole another thread.
Not that I care much about Blush Blush, but it's still better than nothing at this point.

This why nice things and so on...

[Quake Master]

Originally posted by ArtemusGintry:

Actually, Nova is Bi-sexual from the phone flings that you have with her. as far as I can tell Karma, Sutra and the Dark one has these undertones.

And Wendy, Qpernikiss, Lustat, Nutaku, Pamu, Bonnibel (in a pinup)...

[♥ Alan Redgown ♥]

Well, as someone already pointed out, all the girls are lesbians if you play as a female. To say there are no lesbians in the game is a fallacy.

[L-sama]

Originally posted by ArtemusGintry:

Actually, Nova is Bi-sexual from the phone flings that you have with her. as far as I can tell Karma, Sutra and the Dark one has these undertones.

I think Ruri is bi as well, she actually admits to being attracted to Mio to some degree, and asks for Marshmallow's help in arranging a threesome or something.