Dead Rising 2: Off the Record

Dead Rising 2: Off the Record

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Junior Jun 22, 2016 @ 3:50pm 
the text say is not confirmed but theres some "hints" like the way he acts when you dress he like a girl different from the chuck in dr2, but the text say he is a crossdresser not gay or bit or whatever.
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Jefferson Jun 22, 2016 @ 10:34pm 
HAHA.....no plz ;(((((((((
Squall Solis Jun 23, 2016 @ 6:50pm 
No. One of the best things about Off the Record and one of the major things differentiating it from the original DR2 is Frank and Rebecca Chang as essentially a couple. Considering picking this up again after playing it on 360.
KEV1N Jun 23, 2016 @ 11:53pm 
The person that wrote that has the same name as you. Weird...

Anyone who's played Dead Rising will know that Frank is a ladies man.
Queen HawlSera Jun 24, 2016 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by KEV1N:
The person that wrote that has the same name as you. Weird...

Anyone who's played Dead Rising will know that Frank is a ladies man.

I wasn't passing something I wrote off as something someone else wrote with a misleading headline ust to get publicity. Why would you even think that? *nervous laughter*

Alright, but in reality, my argument isn't that Frank is gay, but rather bisexual.
NallyNally! Jun 24, 2016 @ 12:36pm 
Damn, that's one big text dump in your blog there. Might want to space your paragraphs a bit more.

I'll give you the cliffs notes version: It's a Japanese thing. Frank's designed to be a western action hero (Right there in his name, Frank WEST) as opposed to the more traditional Japanese heroes who are young and beautiful, regardless of gender. Because of the rule of funny, Frank takes his crossdressing seriously. You can see that in other manly Japanese characters (Yu Narukami from Persona 4 comes to mind.)

So you know, pretty boy in drag, probably just embarassing and not very funny (Nick Ramos himself) but manly man seeing nothing wrong with wearing a sundress, pretty funny.

As a side note, Daniella from Haunting Ground is actually a real (Though infertile, therefore she wasn't farmed for Azoth) woman brainwashed to believe she's a homunculus, and her sexuality really doesn't come into play much. It's like saying Pinnochio was actually gay or into whales. Maybe, but it's not really a factor. Groping Fiona has more to do with the fact that by her understanding, Fiona is a real woman, and she's not. That's pretty much the same reason Fiona is so oversexualized.
Queen HawlSera Jun 24, 2016 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by SONIC NASARENOOO:
Damn, that's one big text dump in your blog there. Might want to space your paragraphs a bit more.

I'll give you the cliffs notes version: It's a Japanese thing. Frank's designed to be a western action hero (Right there in his name, Frank WEST) as opposed to the more traditional Japanese heroes who are young and beautiful, regardless of gender. Because of the rule of funny, Frank takes his crossdressing seriously. You can see that in other manly Japanese characters (Yu Narukami from Persona 4 comes to mind.)

So you know, pretty boy in drag, probably just embarassing and not very funny (Nick Ramos himself) but manly man seeing nothing wrong with wearing a sundress, pretty funny.

As a side note, Daniella from Haunting Ground is actually a real (Though infertile, therefore she wasn't farmed for Azoth) woman brainwashed to believe she's a homunculus, and her sexuality really doesn't come into play much. It's like saying Pinnochio was actually gay or into whales. Maybe, but it's not really a factor. Groping Fiona has more to do with the fact that by her understanding, Fiona is a real woman, and she's not. That's pretty much the same reason Fiona is so oversexualized.

No no. I meant Daniella could be seen as a metaphor for transgenderism because transwomen are often made to feel like we aren't "real women" I wasn't implying. I didn't think she was a lesbian. I honestly don't see how one can come to that conclusion. Also odd, when was it said Daniella was brainwashed. I don't remember that at all.


As for Frank West, I never knew I always just assumed he was designed by an American branch of Capcom. Especially since Dead Rising 1 was one 360 (a console not popular in Japan) and was released in America first. ♥♥♥♥ I assumed Chop Till You Drop was only a thing because the PS3 wasn't a relevant console anywhere at the time and Japan wanted Dead Rising on a system Japanese people actually owned.
daminshi Jun 24, 2016 @ 9:16pm 
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, is this another one those articles where some whiny Progressive wishes another character was gay or trans because of wish fulfillment? That ♥♥♥♥ didn't work when this one ♥♥♥♥ tried to claim Samus was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ because of a scribble on a old piece of concept art. (The writer for that article last year is totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane.) Stop trying to extract some character's sexuality like some kind of point scoring system for a political agenda. Video games don't need "Diversity".
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Queen HawlSera Jun 24, 2016 @ 9:29pm 
Originally posted by The Wall:
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, is this another one those articles where some whiny Progressive wishes another character was gay or trans because of wish fulfillment? That ♥♥♥♥ didn't work when this one ♥♥♥♥ tried to claim Samus was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ because of a scribble on a old piece of concept art. (The writer for that article last year is totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane.) Stop trying to extract some character's sexuality like some kind of point scoring system for a political agenda. Video games don't need "Diversity".

Maybe you should read the article. It doesn't say Frank is anything other than a crossdresser.

As a transwoman myself, Samus being trans was one of the dumbest conclusions for anyone to come to.
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daminshi Jun 24, 2016 @ 10:36pm 
Originally posted by Faerie Queen HawlSera:
Maybe you should read the article. It doesn't say Frank is anything other than a crossdresser.

As a transwoman myself, Samus being trans was one of the dumbest conclusions for anyone to come to.
Yeah, I admit I didn't read article and I should have. (Though the title of the thread is a bit clickbaity as well. :P ) I did give off a knee jerk reaction and that was the first thing that came to mind. My bad. :steamsalty: Many times I see something about sexuality, characters, or video games these days, I can't help but think that there's going to be something politically motivated with an agenda to push with it. (It also comes from following GamerGate, its opponents, and seeing how the whole thing was constnatly being misrepresented in the news. Never participated in it or the boycotts, but I constantly followed it till it mostly died off within the past year.)

The thing I don't like is the whole politicizing of sexuality and genders that's back in vogue, especially in the mainstream media, journalists, and social media corps like Twitter. I wish the identity politics shtick would just be shoved out of the industry.

With Frank being a crossdresser, I don't care except it's humorous and fits the world of DR well. This is one of the only games in existence where I can wear a tube top mini skirt, a ♥♥♥♥ skin cap, and go-go boots while riding a little girls tricycle through a zombie mall. :)
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Queen HawlSera Jun 24, 2016 @ 11:51pm 
Originally posted by The Wall:
Originally posted by Faerie Queen HawlSera:
Maybe you should read the article. It doesn't say Frank is anything other than a crossdresser.

As a transwoman myself, Samus being trans was one of the dumbest conclusions for anyone to come to.
Yeah, I admit I didn't read article and I should have. (Though the title of the thread is a bit clickbaity as well. :P ) I did give off a knee jerk reaction and that was the first thing that came to mind. My bad. :steamsalty: Many times I see something about sexuality, characters, or video games these days, I can't help but think that there's going to be something politically motivated with an agenda to push with it. (It also comes from following GamerGate, its opponents, and seeing how the whole thing was constnatly being misrepresented in the news. Never participated in it or the boycotts, but I constantly followed it till it mostly died off within the past year.)

The thing I don't like is the whole politicizing of sexuality and genders that's back in vogue, especially in the mainstream media, journalists, and social media corps like Twitter. I wish the identity politics shtick would just be shoved out of the industry.

With Frank being a crossdresser, I don't care except it's humorous and fits the world of DR well. This is one of the only games in existence where I can wear a tube top mini skirt, a ♥♥♥♥ skin cap, and go-go boots while riding a little girls tricycle through a zombie mall. :)

Yeah.... if you ask me Gamergate is just as bad as the SJWs, they're the opposite extreme, but the opposite extreme is never the solution.

I lost it when Gamergate protested the third Baldur's Gate game for having a transgender npc who contributes nothing to the storyline and isn't a plot essential npc, (so it's not like she was being rubbing their faces)... and the cherry on top being that the second Baldur's Gate game... DID have a transgender major character whose transness was a crucical sidequest...

They just wanna be mad to be mad.

Still a lot of the politicization is because Gays and Transgenders are finally out of the closet and winning rights, and too many political factions are trying to force us back into that closet and we're trying to not let that happen anyway we can.

I agree the crossdressing thing is most likely done as a joke, I wouldn't really think anything beyond that if it weren't for a few comments Frank makes in Dead Rising 2 "In The Closet? One of my favorite places to be!" I doubt Frank's gay, he seems very interested in women, at most, he's either got some weird kinks or is a closet bisexual.
daminshi Jun 25, 2016 @ 1:57am 
Originally posted by Faerie Queen HawlSera:
Yeah.... if you ask me Gamergate is just as bad as the SJWs, they're the opposite extreme, but the opposite extreme is never the solution.
I don't see them as the opposite extreme, but definitely far enough away from the SJW's to be classified as something different. And yeah, I've seen GGers do stupid ♥♥♥♥, but I haven't seen people do stupid ♥♥♥♥ though which the rest of the people in GG seem to go along with like sheep.

A recent example was one GGer from one of the GG sub boards. Last I checked there was 2 left and falling fast off the top 100 boards on 8 chan. (I never went to the GGRevolt board, just the main one.) This one GGer, John Kelly, posted "evidence" in a clickbait post of a Nintendo representative, Alison Rapp, (who was in charge of the Treehouse localization team that censored Fire Emblem Fates) who supposedly said she was in favor of pedophila, which was a lie. It was enough to get her in hot water, but she was already in a bit of it for bad mouthing gamers on Twitter, censoring a hotly anticipated game, and being a part time camgirl on her account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSuxYvZTfXw

They just wanna be mad to be mad.

This was one of the very few times I've hated someone in GG doing something, and it seems to be the part that wants to remain and attack targets that goes against gamers as a whole. The difference however is that it was one guy or a small minority and there's everyone else who were individuals. I still remember when one SJW pedophile (Sarah Nyberg or @srhbutts), was outed by a GGer (Leo Pirate) and instead of Sarah being left swinging in the wind to defend himself or people disassociating from him, many others came to his defense and even helped trying to cover up his past, including shutting down his site and using the DMCA to take down any incriminating evidence. Even going so far as to mass report Leo Pirate and got permanently banned from Twitter. GGers are more individualistic while the SJWs are very collectivist. (Yes, I know Sarah's a transwoman, but I have zero respect for him to even attempt to use proper pronouns.) I don't anyone has to worry about GG anymore unless it's about journalists, news organizations, freedom of speech, or similar things since that was the main focal point. Everyone's branched away and are now anti-(*insert Proggressive politics word here*).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNn-L1umS1s

I lost it when Gamergate protested the third Baldur's Gate game for having a transgender npc who contributes nothing to the storyline and isn't a plot essential npc, (so it's not like she was being rubbing their faces)... and the cherry on top being that the second Baldur's Gate game... DID have a transgender major character whose transness was a crucical sidequest...

Was that really GamerGate? From what I've heard Siege of Dragonspire was very buggy, the writing was terrible, the core characters of the series were out of character, an old groan worthy meme about "Ethics" was a voice acted sequence, the dev was whining to their player base to rate the game positive to offset the bad reviews they were getting (which I think is against the Steam TOS), there was heavy handed social justice rhetoric thrown in (which the dev clearly stated she hated writing "cis white male" characters), and the final part of throwing in a token trans character for "Diversity" sake.

The trans character was the cherry on top of the ♥♥♥♥ sundae, and from what I've heard, it wasn't even a good character either. Being trans was pretty much the only defining feature of that character and didn't have much of a deep personality, essentially making that one a token prop. I think the part that caused GGers at the time to get angry the most was that old meme. I can only speculate though since most of these people are anonymous.

https://twitter.com/AonSciath/status/716779750447034368
http://archive.is/hWchL
http://nichegamer.com/2016/04/03/beamdog-addresses-problematic-content-baldurs-gate/

I haven't played Siege of Dragonspire and what I've read is a lot of hear say, so don't take my word on it. Though the reviews don't inspire confidence.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/385970/#app_reviews_hash

Still a lot of the politicization is because Gays and Transgenders are finally out of the closet and winning rights, and too many political factions are trying to force us back into that closet and we're trying to not let that happen anyway we can.

Umm, I don't think anybody wants to do that. I think people in general, at least in the US, have realized that gay and trans people do have the right to exist and its become taboo in most circles (as well as illegal depending on the situation) to discriminate against people who aren't straight or don't identity as man or woman. (Though people are going to be rightfully weirded out by the "woman with the penis" trap.)

It's the forceful rewriting of laws or rules of society to fit a tiny minorities world view that make people upset though. Recent one is the trans bathroom issue, which quickly got stupid with ideas proposed about gender neutral bathrooms, bathrooms for 3 or more "genders", and just having any sex or gender go into any bathroom. It's confusing, dependant on the person or situation, is very unlikely to happen, but everyone has to stop to focus on this one issue. That does get very annoying.

(Also, my city had a gay pride march recently. I seriously have to question the legitimacy of a parade to showcase that a minority exists and isn't going anywhere, have a need for a parade when they're already accepted in society and in the media in general. I asked a friend online who was in a march recently and he seems to not know either, except maybe to show off their weird kinks and fetishes, especially when there was a BDSM float. He lives in Canada. He did say it was great advertising for the furry convention they were having that week from their fur float. Yeah, I got strange friends too.)

I agree the crossdressing thing is most likely done as a joke, I wouldn't really think anything beyond that if it weren't for a few comments Frank makes in Dead Rising 2 "In The Closet? One of my favorite places to be!" I doubt Frank's gay, he seems very interested in women, at most, he's either got some weird kinks or is a closet bisexual.

Back onto Dead Rising 2, I haven't heard that quote before. I've only been playing for 70 hours and haven't done much with the costumes. Though he does seem to preen a little putting them and the hair styles on. It wouldn't surprise me if he was into some very weird things (he's covered wars) since the world he's in is a giant parody and a stereotype of American culture through a Japanese lens. He is very much into women, though I was getting kind of annoyed with the asian reporter in this game being such an emasculating tease half the time even if she seemed interested in him.

Now that I think about it, he is into women, but he was looking at her as a kind of business partner. Someone he knew had talent and could put themselves on the line to get the story. Unrequited love, or is he focused purely on getting the truth for now?
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Queen HawlSera Jun 25, 2016 @ 12:11pm 
You have to go to the "In The Closet" store, it plays the first time you enter, it's the first clothing store you see in story mode. If I wasn't on a laptop due to my gaming PC being busted (and I can't replace it till around December) I'd record video of the line as proof. (I can still play, but the lappy doesn't want to record worth ♥♥♥♥)


And yeah, the third game Siege Of Dragonspear, I had heard that the writer basically turned all the female characters into overly angry misandrist mouth pieces even if it created plotholes to do so and that the game was very buggy. However.... When the game was new, the only thing I heard the Gamergate groups I was in (and have since left, I used to support gamergate, but they made it obvious their agenda is Girl Hating and LGBT Bashing... hell.. one group actually kicked me out for being a "Fake Girl Gamer"...) ignored all that to focus on the trans character. What really made me facepalm was the guy who said "THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BACK THEN!!?!?!?!?!?!!" which made it obvious he never actually played the game because technically you can roll a transgender character from the first game. (Pick character the opposite sex of the one they transition to, get Girdle Of Masculinity/Feminity, wear it the rest of the game. Done) also again EDWINA IN THE SECOND GAME!

What really made me ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ laugh was when they talked abou how SJWs ruined Mortal Kombat, when the only examples they gave was Kitana had a costume more detailed than a glorified swimsuit (and was still basically a glorified swimsuit) and... one character is gay (Kung Jin)..... Yeah because "Heterosexuals" that's what Mortal Kombat is all about right? Not... you know... gorey, over the top, and physically impossible feats of gorey murder.

If anything ruined Mortal Kombat it was Ed Boon being a sore ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ loser over complaints that the PC Version of X was improperly optimized and then going "YOU DON'T GET MY GAMES ANYMORE!"

Nevermind that if the game was really ruined by SJWs, Johnny Cage wouldn't be able to use fatalities on his daughter or ex-wife.....

I will admit, I have never actually played Baldur's Gate myself, it's been on my radar and I've heard friends talk about it though.
daminshi Jun 25, 2016 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by Faerie Queen HawlSera:
You have to go to the "In The Closet" store, it plays the first time you enter, it's the first clothing store you see in story mode. If I wasn't on a laptop due to my gaming PC being busted (and I can't replace it till around December) I'd record video of the line as proof. (I can still play, but the lappy doesn't want to record worth ♥♥♥♥)
Thanks, I'm going to check out that store when I replay it later. I usually stay away from customization options and go for perfeft or good runs, so those shops usually never get visited, unless I'm desperate for a health item. Sorry your gaming PC is wrecked. Hopefully you aren't using those chiclet keys on the laptop. Those things suck for FPS.

I haven't been a part of GG or have visited the usual places, except Kotaku In Action, for a very long time. Almost 6 months now. That doesn't sound like the usual type of lingo I heard when it was roughly a year old. It sounds like a bunch of channers hating the social jusitce injection in video games. And yeah, I can only imagine someone saying something as stupid.

I haven't played any of the Baldur's Gate games, even though they've been on my radar for a long time. FPS has always been my go to instead of RPGs. But yeah, I think much of the rational people have moved on now and only occasionally talk when there's some impropriety going on. The ones remaining seem to be angry at the invading culture and just want to lash out. At least other sites have taken it upon themselves to report on conflicts of interest when it happens.[www.oneangrygamer.net]

What really made me ♥♥♥♥ing laugh was when they talked abou how SJWs ruined Mortal Kombat, when the only examples they gave was Kitana had a costume more detailed than a glorified swimsuit (and was still basically a glorified swimsuit) and... one character is gay (Kung Jin)..... Yeah because "Heterosexuals" that's what Mortal Kombat is all about right? Not... you know... gorey, over the top, and physically impossible feats of gorey murder.
XD ♥♥♥♥♥♥ wat? Hahaha Damn, it's almost getting as bad as the SJW's. Road to hell with good intentions an all that. I haven't followed Mortal Kombat since the original arcade releases, so I have no clue about that bit of drama. Though I was stunned and a bit angry when they announced dropping support and DLC for the PC version. That's what would ruin the game the most. The concept of console exclusive stuff is teeth grinding. (Can't play DR's Case Zero or Case West DLC unless I have a 360 again and a paid Live account.)
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Queen HawlSera Jun 25, 2016 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by The Wall:
Originally posted by Faerie Queen HawlSera:
You have to go to the "In The Closet" store, it plays the first time you enter, it's the first clothing store you see in story mode. If I wasn't on a laptop due to my gaming PC being busted (and I can't replace it till around December) I'd record video of the line as proof. (I can still play, but the lappy doesn't want to record worth ♥♥♥♥)
Thanks, I'm going to check out that store when I replay it later. I usually stay away from customization options and go for perfeft or good runs, so those shops usually never get visited, unless I'm desperate for a health item. Sorry your gaming PC is wrecked. Hopefully you aren't using those chiclet keys on the laptop. Those things suck for FPS.

I haven't been a part of GG or have visited the usual places, except Kotaku In Action, for a very long time. Almost 6 months now. That doesn't sound like the usual type of lingo I heard when it was roughly a year old. It sounds like a bunch of channers hating the social jusitce injection in video games. And yeah, I can only imagine someone saying something as stupid.

I haven't played any of the Baldur's Gate games, even though they've been on my radar for a long time. FPS has always been my go to instead of RPGs. But yeah, I think much of the rational people have moved on now and only occasionally talk when there's some impropriety going on. The ones remaining seem to be angry at the invading culture and just want to lash out. At least other sites have taken it upon themselves to report on conflicts of interest when it happens.[www.oneangrygamer.net]

What really made me ♥♥♥♥ing laugh was when they talked abou how SJWs ruined Mortal Kombat, when the only examples they gave was Kitana had a costume more detailed than a glorified swimsuit (and was still basically a glorified swimsuit) and... one character is gay (Kung Jin)..... Yeah because "Heterosexuals" that's what Mortal Kombat is all about right? Not... you know... gorey, over the top, and physically impossible feats of gorey murder.
XD ♥♥♥♥♥♥ wat? Hahaha Damn, it's almost getting as bad as the SJW's. Road to hell with good intentions an all that. I haven't followed Mortal Kombat since the original arcade releases, so I have no clue about that bit of drama. Though I was stunned and a bit angry when they announced dropping support and DLC for the PC version. That's what would ruin the game the most. The concept of console exclusive stuff is teeth grinding. (Can't play DR's Case Zero or Case West DLC unless I have a 360 again and a paid Live account.)


Yeah, I used to be in Gamergate myself because the SJWs were out of line with contradictory demands (Don't show women getting hurt or being sexy in video games whislt simultaneously constantly having only women be the lead characters.) Nowadays, I don't think anyone takes SJWs seriously because developers get the memo that SJWs do not play video games. I appluad attempts to make games more inclusive especially since I'm a transgender woman (I wasn't impress with how only one class could be rolled female in Borderlands, but happy it was fixed in the sequel) but I recongize there are right ways to do it (for example, including a woman with a body type outside of the normal cheesecake hourglass arch-type in Overwatch in the form of Zarya) and wrong ways to do it (Retconning Captain America into being gay, randomly making the Ghostbusters women, etc.)

Personally all games should come to Steam, Steam is the best platform for preserving video games and does wonders for breathing life into games that were previously dead. (Such as Disgaea and Phantom Brave which were hard to find even when new)
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