Dante Makes me Cry :( DMC 4 Discussion

[Tekias2024]

I just can't seem to get to grips with Dante.... He just seems really vulnerable mostly and lacks easability. Going the distance on Bloody Palace is almost impossible and I play quite well.

I completely floor wipe with nero, taking out scores of enemies brutally, my play style should be illigalised so wut da heck is up :(

Dant V Nero:
http://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=oyyqRzD0zvE&ns=1

I added in some split screen analysis and all that geeky shiz so we can best see "kinda" how both heroes fare out =/

[Hydris]

"Why Does Dante Suck?"
You suck; get better and past floor 39 of Bloody Palace.

More constructively, if you've played DMC3 Dante it might be easier to get used to DMC4 Dante.

[Tekias2024]

I don't suck, I play a real nice Nero, Just Dante really has issues!

[Hydris]

Originally posted by GTXTyson:

I don't suck, I play a real nice Nero, Just Dante really has issues!

Nope you do suck, just because you can play Nero well doesn't mean you don't suck at playing Dante.

Dante has blocks, dodges, air dodges, 3 more Devil Arms, and 2 more Fire Arms (+Fire Arm combos); generally more options than Nero, and you obviously don't use them.

He doesn't have Devil Bringer (nor Exceed, or 'Air Stinger') though, and he's less straighforward to play than Nero.

Get better. If you want to play Dante better try doing something other than Stinger, Basic Rebellion Combo, and Dance Macabre; and switch styles and weapons more than once per 2.5 minutes.

Append: Before anyone tosses some remark about me being elitist or something similar, I would have given him more [relatively] respect had he blamed himself for poor play instead of the game for not being simple enough.

[Tunuh]

Nero's Devil Bringer makes Dante look underpowered, but he's really not. Nero's easy to learn, easy to master whereas Dante's the opposite, the good news is that means Dante's skill ceiling potential is that much higher than Neros.

General tips: Use shotgun and trickster on the witches, always be charging your shotgun. Keep moving, hitting enemies into the air and air attack/dashing forward (back, forward+melee attack button). Use Gilgamesh combos and Rebellion + Swordmaster on the backs of frosts and angels. Use Pandora and shotgun on Chimeras. Royal Guard for blocking+redirecting (it's worth it to learn). Unless it's scarecrows, I never really use Lucifer so no advice there.

[Tekias2024]

Yeah I meen I know I ain't a pro with Dante but it's really getting me down that I can't smoke the fire demon with Dante... I get stuck at the Teleport Beast and lose a shed load of health. To top it off I know I won't go further even if I beat the Fire Boss because I feel real under powered with Dante!

I started using the shotgun against the scarecrows, much quicker, plus I have become much better with Dante while quick sqitching but I still don't feel totally invincible or able to take a group of enemies and smoke em quick. I lack crowd control and that sucks more with Dante =/

[Tunuh]

Shoot the teleport baddie until his electricity is gone, then you can melee him without getting damaged.

[Hydris]

Originally posted by GTXTyson:

Yeah I meen I know I ain't a pro with Dante but it's really getting me down that I can't smoke the fire demon with Dante... I get stuck at the Teleport Beast and lose a shed load of health. To top it off I know I won't go further even if I beat the Fire Boss because I feel real under powered with Dante!
.... I lack crowd control and that sucks more with Dante =/

Well at least that is some form of admittance. It's still kind of funny how you thought you were proficient with the game especially when the bar is set so high
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The Blitz ("Teleport Beast"), the way it spawns on Stage 18, you have enough time to charge Drive! (Locked-On, Back+ Swordmaster Style Action) to max, 3 hits (tap fast enough to shoot 3 times) from a fully charged Drive! will remove the electricity and stun it.
You also have enough time to open Pandora (Locked-On, Forward + Gunslinger Style Action) and remove electricity that way, same applies sometimes when it's stuck shooting lightning.
You can also stick or detonate Lucifer pins on to it without taking damage so long as you're not making contact.
If you're feeling like a real badass, you can strike it normally and block the feedback damage with Royal Guard, this will reset the combo string though.
Of course, shooting guns, and gun combos with Gunslinger are still options.

Dante's form of crowd control can easily be Lucifer's pins, since when a few of them detonate, they'll stagger/stun the enemy, and that multiple pins can be stuck onto multiple enemies regardless if they have shields or are trying to block, plus their detonation and position can be directly controlled.

Don't know what you're doing wrong with the Berial ('Fire Boss') though. Since you atleast unlocked Hard mode, you should know how the fight goes by now.