Twin Saga

Twin Saga

Cle34n Sep 7, 2017 @ 2:47pm
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Thaun_ Sep 7, 2017 @ 3:02pm 
Um, so im not sure what you are talking about, if you want to ask about P2W, check here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/454910/discussions/0/1473095965287616678/
And about if community is dead, check discord:
https://discord.gg/Mbryf5k
Last edited by Thaun_; Sep 7, 2017 @ 3:03pm
Thaun_ Sep 7, 2017 @ 10:48pm 
This isnt a P2W game, its rather Pay2Progress. Every single can be obtained by buying it with gold, and trading it with players.
Gothicc Feeldoe Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:00am 
Doesn't this game have a solid fan base outside of steam?
Tendie Sep 8, 2017 @ 6:25am 
Originally posted by Clitoria Labia:
Doesn't this game have a solid fan base outside of steam?

It does
Avner Sep 8, 2017 @ 9:09am 
Most of the game isn't pay2win, but senshi system is p2w to the extreme.
The Horn Sep 8, 2017 @ 7:26pm 
Originally posted by Avner:
Most of the game isn't pay2win, but senshi system is p2w to the extreme.
What is the senshi system?
Avner Sep 8, 2017 @ 10:13pm 
Originally posted by The Horn:
Originally posted by Avner:
Most of the game isn't pay2win, but senshi system is p2w to the extreme.
What is the senshi system?

If you ever played Aura Kingdom, it's similar to the Eidolon there.

It's basically a pet system. You can equip 3, one of them out with you.

Every senshi has a move, like skill he uses when he's out, and that usually gives a debuff on enemy. They also have an ultimate that gives damage and buffs/debuffs.

Equipped senshi gives bonus stats and the paid senshi has way better stats and moves/ultimate. It's also easier to evolve paid senshi compared to free ones.
To evolve it, you need star energy that you get by using their contract (1x contract = 1x star energy).
Paid senshi requires 6x star energy to evolve to 2-Stars. 4x star energy to evolve to 3-Stars. And 4x star energy to evolve to 4-Stars. I have to mention that to evolve to 4-Stars you need a 4-Star Senshi Key, an item that's almost impossible to obtain without paying. They even added some troll event to make people believe they have chance to get it without paying or gambling on puzzle.
Free senshi requires 10x star energy for each evolution.

Senshi bonus stats can be increased by crafting a specific gem for each senshi, but they made easier to craft that gem and reach max stat on paid senshi.
As an example, for Fina (first free senshi you get), it costs 100 gold to craft an ATK gem and the gem gives 15 to 35 ATK. And for Rita senshi (the only paid senshi I have), it costs 50 gold to craft the gem and increases ATK in 45 to 105.

You get 3 senshi through main quest (but only Fina is really useful) and some as login rewards (recently, the login reward was "nerfed" to take longer to obtain 10x contracts you need to unlock the senshi).

At the moment, there are 3 you can obtain in dungeons: Rita (a really nice senshi), Sakura (useless) and Alice (okay).
But that's just in theory. In reality, it's almost impossible to get Rita and Sakura. Their spawn rate is really low and contracts drop rate is even worse.
Alice is the only one that's actually obtainable.

That's it :p

The game is really nice, but I have to warn you that the game has p2w mechanics.
Last edited by Avner; Oct 7, 2017 @ 7:52am
Thaun_ Sep 10, 2017 @ 10:29am 
All the ones who you can obtain for free is: 3 main free. Duo, Duet, Gaia, Sakura, Alice and Rita.

You can still get 'paid' senshis by getting them from the Astral Puzzle, and 1 Astral Crystal is about 300g (Can also be obtained by joining guild events or forum events). meaning its not only paid senshis anymore.

In Like A Boss event, even Aryn and some other senshi bosses spawns.

You can get ATK gems and other senshi gems from Trio dungeons, they are very easy to do.

Get 8 characters, login for 24 days, and you have 8 contracts a month.

4-Star Evolution Key, can be bought with gold. Also, you can obtain it by collecting LOVE from the event ongoing right now.

Your arguments are invalid. Please do a bit more research before you tell.
Last edited by Thaun_; Sep 10, 2017 @ 10:34am
The Horn Sep 10, 2017 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Thaun_:
All the ones who you can obtain for free is: 3 main free. Duo, Duet, Gaia, Sakura, Alice and Rita.

You can still get 'paid' senshis by getting them from the Astral Puzzle, and 1 Astral Crystal is about 300g (Can also be obtained by joining guild events or forum events). meaning its not only paid senshis anymore.

In Like A Boss event, even Aryn and some other senshi bosses spawns.

You can get ATK gems and other senshi gems from Trio dungeons, they are very easy to do.

Get 8 characters, login for 24 days, and you have 8 contracts a month.

4-Star Evolution Key, can be bought with gold. Also, you can obtain it by collecting LOVE from the event ongoing right now.

Your arguments are invalid. Please do a bit more research before you tell.
I agree with you Thaun, Ive actually had a chance to play the game and it doesnt feel pay to win, but it certainly has the get rich quick with cash shop mentality for whales.
Avner Sep 10, 2017 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by Thaun_:
All the ones who you can obtain for free is: 3 main free. Duo, Duet, Gaia, Sakura, Alice and Rita.

You can still get 'paid' senshis by getting them from the Astral Puzzle, and 1 Astral Crystal is about 300g (Can also be obtained by joining guild events or forum events). meaning its not only paid senshis anymore.

In Like A Boss event, even Aryn and some other senshi bosses spawns.

You can get ATK gems and other senshi gems from Trio dungeons, they are very easy to do.

Get 8 characters, login for 24 days, and you have 8 contracts a month.

4-Star Evolution Key, can be bought with gold. Also, you can obtain it by collecting LOVE from the event ongoing right now.

Your arguments are invalid. Please do a bit more research before you tell.

What senshi do you have, Thaun? I did my "research" by actually playing the game without spending money.

Astral Crystals are expensive and rng (not that mystery boxes aren't rng, but the rates are better).

If Like a Boss event was hosted once a week like before, that would really count as real chance to get anything. But it's only once a month. If you get 1 contract every 2 or 3 months, it's a lot.

Gem drops from Trio dungeon don't chance the fact that's way easier to cap bonus stats on paid senshi. You would know that if you had any paid senshi. Maybe you should get one and do your "research" :p

About the login rewards, I already said that was nerfed (1 contract instead of 2). And they never said anything about that. People only noticed it because they only got 1 contract at the end of the month. Nothing from Aeria except "GMs can't change it".

And here we can see it would be great if you had access to the end game before talking.
You can't even buy 4-Star Senshi Key in gold. It's price is way above gold cap (cap is 99,999 gold). It's usually sold for 600 AC (around 170k gold).

And the LOVE event is a joke. I think not even 10 people got the "E tile" letter, and when you get that, you have a really small chance to gain the 4-Star Key coupon. It's just a troll event that can and, most likely, will give you the same reward from when you exchance the tiles "LOV" only (that are easily obtainable).

You don't see the problem because you don't have access to any of that.
Thaun_ Sep 10, 2017 @ 1:09pm 
Yet, im here enjoying the game, and you complain about how 'premium' stuff is. Having everything isnt the point of the game.
Avner Sep 10, 2017 @ 2:32pm 
Originally posted by Thaun_:
Yet, im here enjoying the game, and you complain about how 'premium' stuff is. Having everything isnt the point of the game.

I am just stating the truth about the game, since I don't have any reason to lie or defend Aeria Games.

If having everything is or isn't the point of the game, that's not for me to decide. Each person plays the way they want, I just want to give them info about how it is in reality.

:p
lionheart Sep 13, 2017 @ 8:59pm 
Do you have to pay money to enjoy the game, no you do not. Can you advance more quickly and get extra bonuses by spending cash then yes it is.
Dyne999 Sep 19, 2017 @ 2:14pm 
Yes it's pay to win Mainly pvp, any who says anything else is an idiot. (advance gears scrolls, selling cash mounts for gold same as costumes. paying cash to just sell astral crystals for gold ect.) it's a free mmo they need to scam the community to make some type of money off a crap game. There is a reason why aria games is known for as a "bad company" hell a monkey can run a company better than they could anyday. Also saying that you enjoy a game does not make it pay to win/ not pay to win(irrelevent as always) as long as I can fork over a couple of hundred dollars to max out/get the best gear it would take you months or years just to catch up your only chance to get anywhere near these type of players is if they quit they game or take a break to slow their progession. With this game that won't happen with the very much decline of a player base, getting into dungeon runs will take a lot longer.
Last edited by Dyne999; Sep 19, 2017 @ 5:12pm
Chris.T Sep 20, 2017 @ 10:56am 
Can say you can progress pretty easily without paying. But if you want to be competitive anytime fast outside of spending months grinding to catch up you will need to pay. However That's not stopping me from enjoying the game and TBH spending 10-15 dollars a month on the game casually doesn't hurt me and shouldn't hurt you especially if you like the game and tbh I like the game. You're not gonna find a F2P MMO that isn't pay 2 win sorry if you don't like pay 2 win spend 5 bucks and buy BDO ( which isn't p2w its more pay for convenience even though you realistically need to spend money for pets eventually ). I like this game its a nice casual MMO and expecting anything other than pay2win from a free mmo nowadays is stupid. Whales keep this game going you should be thankful for them. If people wanna spend 100s like idiots on a game that'll be gone in another year it shouldn't bother you. will you be the best player in the game being free? no obviously whales are gonna outshine you because they spend... but them spending gets you updates and keep the game going so why complain? Not like this is a super active well known game in first place. I enjoyed the story and enjoy the game for what it is and will casually spend 10-15 dollars here and there to aid my progression. But so far I've had no issue getting everything done. I come from BDO so grinding is my speciality so maybe it's why it doesn't bother me here because the grind here is nothing compared to grinding 60-61 and farming full boss gear for my Musa in BDO lul
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