Does Anyone Have a Good Male Majin Guide?

[TNT THE KILL]

I need a guide to male Majins, not a combo guide and not a build, a guide. How do they survive, how to manage more than a single Saibaman since canceling and combo extensions really don't work when someone other than your target is hitting you and just everything else. a double damage taken when stamina is below 30% does not balance 20% damage reduction when stamina is above 30% at all, it should be a 1 to 1.5 ratio or somewhat around that, not 20% less damage but 100% more damage, something like 20% less damage and 30% more damage is actually viable, but the only thing a male Majin gets is being hated by every developer simultaneously. You want to move faster than a turtle? Well too bad, fast movement takes stamina and god forbid you go below max bars or else you lose faster than you knew to be possible. Male Majin get 1-shotted by mediocre ultimates when their stamina is broken, which is ridiculous, so please tell me HOW do I use male Majins?

[JtDarth]

FTR, speaking mostly about pve:
As hard as it is to hear, 'git gud' does come into play a bit here. Or more accurately: Learn how to play defensive.

I don't play Male majiins, preferring the female ones's passives, but I do use beast and Kaioken a lot in pve, both of which increase damage taken significantly, and Kaioken eats stamina, so I can say this: keeping your stamina above 30% is REALLY not that hard with access to QQ bangs and/or simply getting some levels. There's also a move (IDR what it's called, but I think it's one of Krillins? It involves your characters smacking their own face a few times) that iirc, lets you trade one bar of ki for 2 of stamina, use it if you really struggle super hard to manage stamina. Male majin, with access to that damage boost, also have the most ability to pour points into stamina, ki, and HP early without crippling their offensive ability.

You avoid the problem indicated with multi-target fights, by not trying to long combo when against multiple aggressive opponents. Usually when you have multiple opponents there is either some sort of gimmick, or they attack in turns. So either figure out the gimmick, or play more defensively instead of going all in on attacks.
You can move relatively fast without stamina usage via vanishing step. Elder kai has a tutorial on it. It can be chained to get you moving pretty fast, and has no significant stamina cost, if any at all, last I used that movement type.
'get one-shotted'? Means put more attribute points into HP, or equip gear/QQbang that give you more hp. The ai also doesn't intelligently use stamina break, so getting your stamina broken is 9/10 you derping, not the ai specifically doing something to trigger it.

This game, at the end of the day, especially in pve, has major rpg influences. Male majins ARE widely considered to be the 'worst' CaC type, precisely because of the conditionals of their passives, as opposed to humans, saiyans, Frieza race, and even Namekians. You have to actively work around M Majin's effects, a concern that doesn't exist for the others. Female Majin are generally better, but their primary passive benefit of increased stamina regen from break, rarely comes into play unless you SPECIFICALLY work it into your playstyle with Kaioken or what have you.

[Neoxenok]

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

How do they survive,

That's easy. Keep their stamina above 2 bars. Have 6-10 stamina bars, ideally. My own Maljin has 125 in health, stamina, and ki blasts.

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

Male Majin get 1-shotted by mediocre ultimates when their stamina is broken, which is ridiculous, so please tell me HOW do I use male Majins?

Don't get their stamina broken. The biggest issue with Maljins is just the fact that you need to be halfway decent at avoiding using your stamina except when you need to. Their racial awoken and one of their race-exclusive supers both can recover hit points (for the skill) or hit points, stamina, and ki (for the awoken variant of the same skill).

I get the trepidation for using maljins in PVP but they're actually quite good in raids and all PVE areas because the AI only breaks your stamina when you're using an ultimate without breaking their stamina first.

[TNT THE KILL]

Originally posted by Neoxenok:

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

How do they survive,

That's easy. Keep their stamina above 2 bars. Have 6-10 stamina bars, ideally. My own Maljin has 125 in health, stamina, and ki blasts.

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

Male Majin get 1-shotted by mediocre ultimates when their stamina is broken, which is ridiculous, so please tell me HOW do I use male Majins?

Don't get their stamina broken. The biggest issue with Maljins is just the fact that you need to be halfway decent at avoiding using your stamina except when you need to. Their racial awoken and one of their race-exclusive supers both can recover hit points (for the skill) or hit points, stamina, and ki (for the awoken variant of the same skill).

I get the trepidation for using maljins in PVP but they're actually quite good in raids and all PVE areas because the AI only breaks your stamina when you're using an ultimate without breaking their stamina first.

Yeah, the bots don't use stamina breaks but I'll take the Zamasu mentor initiation as an example. Male Majin is the only race I actually had trouble kill Goku Black on in the initiation test, since I need to conserve my stamina but Zamasu is attacking, so I can't get out of combos and the only opportunity of a half decent attack I have is using an ultimate randomly. Even when I don't, conserving stamina is so troublesome and yet your life literally depends on it so it's a really stupid thing having to rely on the bots just forgetting they're against you thus becoming purposely unskilled and letting you live. Playing male Majin is some of the most absolute r*tardation I have ever seen, damage is mediocre and defense is irrelevant so they have to rely on their high healthpool and yet have no speed, playing them could sometimes be actually impossible since if you have 2 player-controlled enemies against you, what are you going to do then? You can't combo them because the other cancels and with bots that happens less but still does, male Majin sometimes seems just not worthy to play or even look at. Not to talk about how 3 of their 4 available awoken skills increase damage taken and 1 is not that good so they don't seem viable, neither do they seem fun. Playing a male Majin is having to create your own concept fueled by your own pain just for you to use your other characters and say you played male Majin. It's really dumb how they are the only character that needs you keep your stamina or else you're instantly dead and you can't do anything about it, would have been actually viable if having lower defense means slightly higher attack power but it isn't. Male Majin isn't worth it

[Neoxenok]

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

conserving stamina is so troublesome and yet your life literally depends on it

I don't see how that's different between majins and literally everyone else. When you run out of stamina, you're f-ked. Majins are particularly vulnerable, but all you have to do is vanish or evasive one fewer time and you're still taking less damage and still have more hit points overall than anyone else.

I mean, it's just a skill issue. My own Maljin has already done just about everything offline in the game and I use him in PVP. All of the different races and genders require a different playstyle and the Maljin is no different.

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

It's really dumb how they are the only character that needs you keep your stamina or else you're instantly dead and you can't do anything about it, would have been actually viable if having lower defense means slightly higher attack power but it isn't.

Skill issue.

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

Male Majin isn't worth it

It's your prerogative to believe whatever you want.

[TNT THE KILL]

Originally posted by Neoxenok:

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

conserving stamina is so troublesome and yet your life literally depends on it

I don't see how that's different between majins and literally everyone else. When you run out of stamina, you're f-ked. Majins are particularly vulnerable, but all you have to do is vanish or evasive one fewer time and you're still taking less damage and still have more hit points overall than anyone else.

I mean, it's just a skill issue. My own Maljin has already done just about everything offline in the game and I use him in PVP. All of the different races and genders require a different playstyle and the Maljin is no different.

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

It's really dumb how they are the only character that needs you keep your stamina or else you're instantly dead and you can't do anything about it, would have been actually viable if having lower defense means slightly higher attack power but it isn't.

Skill issue.

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

Male Majin isn't worth it

It's your prerogative to believe whatever you want.

Yes, I understand where that's coming from but changing a playstyle that much for little reward is a dumb decision. Playing male Majin has to be done in a very certain way and after playing other races you're just kinda used to being able to use stamina. It's not a 'get good' problem, it's a 'look at Xenoverse while playing your CaC and look at Xenoverse while playing your M Majin CaC as different games that need to be played differently' problem and I just really can not find that comfortable, as the only saving grace I can find for casually playing M Majin without putting too much thought into the game like you normally would is super armor. One thing about Purification I didn't know though is holding down light attack while being in a fair distance from your target makes you do a Sonic spindash which I find incredible

[Neoxenok]

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

Yes, I understand where that's coming from but changing a playstyle that much for little reward is a dumb decision.

What are you talking about? You need to be a little better with stamina management. You don't have to learn how to never use stamina. It's not different to how you should be playing with any of the other CAC races in that regard anyway.

Originally posted by TNT THE KILL:

Playing male Majin has to be done in a very certain way and after playing other races you're just kinda used to being able to use stamina.

You keep saying stuff like this but it's not at all true. The 'take extra damage at low stamina' is certainly a weakness of the Maljin that I would definitely agree makes it the worst choice for a CAC overall but the difference between the best and worst choices only really matters to the kind of sweaty tryhards in ranked PVP that rarely stray from their male humans and their LH combos and meta skills.

I should know, I've been playing the game since release and I have a L99 of every race and gender, including the Maljin, who I often use for PVP and help for others in online PQs and raids. I'm by no means an expert but I know how they play.

[Parsnip]

I almost never play male Majins but this is what I would do:
Phantom Fist is an After Image-type move that restores stamina and dodges attacks (it's also the ONLY skill that hasn't been nerfed to not give you any stamina during Kaioken), so equipping it and using it whenever the AI does a predictive attack is a good way to keep it up. A cheap Super Soul like "Hmm hmm hmm" will keep your health up when you have both an Awoken on top of a Reinforcement skill, like Do or Die, which will also reduce the damage you take and is not hard to activate mid-fight. Always equip a 200-stamina evasive and I would also use at least a skill that's either a counter or can tank other attacks, like Tri-Beam, Explosive Buu Buu Punch, Ice Field, etc.

[Creamy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxANDN1X3pk
god i did that ages ago

[Creamy]

i talk some mad ♥♥♥♥ in that video i have to correct a few things
it is not double damage it is 150% extra damage so it is worse then that
and male majins aren't top 4 they are top 5