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obviously ss3 is too power consuming and therefor going even beyond to ss4 which was a mix of the oozaru form, makes no sense if you ask me but thats just my opinion.
Fans used to say Battle of Gods and Resurrection F were cannon until super came out. Now that super is out which is suppossedly cannon the manga or anime? They are both based on the same outline that Toriyama lays out, but they often contradict eachother.
Based on Dragon Ball
by Akira Toriyama
How bout SSGSS2/3? since there is an SSGSS there must be the other forms? Since SSG seems just like the Kaioken, a independent powerup...
Because allowing to create your own custom monkey person gives furries too much power...
(or the fact that making a SS4 model for every possible custom character would be a nightmare, SS3 is just give the model the hair and set eyebrows to 0)
There are no official statements on what is or is not cannon. You know Toriyama is credited in the production of GT. He oversaw alot of the production, and offered sometimes suggestions. He is also responsible for designing the aged apearances of alot of the main cast in GT. If Akira Toriyama having creative involvement in something makes it cannon, then GT, Dragon Ball Online, Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, and Dragon Ball Super are all cannon.
let me guess, youre one of those fanboys who cant be wrong and think youre always right, no matter if i posted actual facts which is relevant to what is actually cannon ?
Oh god, the image you put into my mind.
As the Shenron charged Vegeta, he put forth his hand, revealing a small glowing orb and shouted, "Blutz wave prisimu power maaaaake up!" A bright flash forced the Shenron back as he watchted the silhouette of Vegeta glimmering radiantly in a rainbow of light. Suddenly threads wrapped themselves around his legs, feet, and hands, materializing clothing around them. Red tail sprouted from his lower back and hair sprouted from his upper torso, everywhere buy his chest. Long, luxirous black locks feel down his back as his eyes cut through the rainbow glow, painted with black eyeliner.
Before the Shenron now stood the ultimate Saiyan transformation, "For power and domination, the Super Saiyan warrior elite, Prince Vegeta! In the name of beating things up, I will crush you!"
This is the only post in this thread that matters
hell it got an even worse track record then ssj blue at defeating opponents.
all ssj4 = is a bad looking pink panther rip off with mascara and magic apearing mc hammer pants.
gt was full of plotholes
old kai didn't know about super saiyan in Z, then in gt he suddenly knows about ssj4.
toriyama was not involved with gt, all he did was create the character looks...and yes that also included moustache vegeta.
i rather get ssj rainbow hair for cac then anything gt related.
as for the whole canon issue
gt is indeed not canon, there is no official manga of it. toriyama was not involved besides the intintial character designs.
Sure it's an alternate time line in Xenoverse, but even xenoverse isn't canon.
Canon:
Dragon ball
Dragon ball Z
Dragon ball Super
Dragon ball Minus
not canon:
dragon ball gt
dragon ball heroes
any of the video games
the movies (minus also retconned the bardock father of goku special)
that terrible movie/manga with bardock getting send back in time instead of dying