Potara Fusion now lasts only 1 hour.

[BlazeRomulus]

No difference from Gogeta any more, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sorry i can't help but gloat at all the people going "suck it gogeta fans!"

[AGBK]

doesn't piccolo state that the fusion dance increases the power of the fused result by tenfold I've read into this and I've heard someone else has said potara gets a buff aswell what's the source?

[BlazeRomulus]

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wait what how and why?

and doesn't this offically ♥♥♥♥ up elder kai considerign he merged with a witch a millenia ago?

it only lasts 1 hour for non-kais,Witch (non-kai) + the Kai = Old kai, so it was ok since there was a kai. Vegeta and Goku fusing via potara were the first among mortals to do so, so the old kai had no idea of the limit...Gowasu knew though...

[Rolando Zolo]

also the fusion dance is a MAXIMUM of 30. once you add ssj3 energy drains its sub 10 mins as seen with gotenks and gogetta.

vegito is a more elegant fusion and like it or not is more powerful as it fully fuses their powers and abilities. the dance is a merge of strength into a new form hence the weird clothes as a side effect also. fusion from earrings>new being from dance easily.

[Rolando Zolo]

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wait what how and why?

and doesn't this offically ♥♥♥♥ up elder kai considerign he merged with a witch a millenia ago?

it only lasts 1 hour for non-kais,Witch (non-kai) + the Kai = Old kai, so it was ok since there was a kai. Vegeta and Goku fusing via potara were the first among mortals to do so, so the old kai had no idea of the limit...Gowasu knew though...

ok that sucks balls, this out of a new ep of super i take it cause its balls crappy.
not to mention all the none kai fusions hinted at prior even if a kai has only been involved int he ones shown.

[mimizukari]

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wait what how and why?

and doesn't this offically ♥♥♥♥ up elder kai considerign he merged with a witch a millenia ago?

kai fusions are permanent

[AGBK]

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wait what how and why?

and doesn't this offically ♥♥♥♥ up elder kai considerign he merged with a witch a millenia ago?

kai fusions are permanent

but the witch wasn't a kai is what I think he's getting at?

[mimizukari]

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doesn't piccolo state that the fusion dance increases the power of the fused result by tenfold I've read into this and I've heard someone else has said potara gets a buff aswell what's the source?

no, and even if it did, the potara increases power one hundred fold, you can find more info on kazenshuu

[BlazeRomulus]

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it only lasts 1 hour for non-kais,Witch (non-kai) + the Kai = Old kai, so it was ok since there was a kai. Vegeta and Goku fusing via potara were the first among mortals to do so, so the old kai had no idea of the limit...Gowasu knew though...

ok that sucks balls, this out of a new ep of super i take it cause its balls crappy.
not to mention all the none kai fusions hinted at prior even if a kai has only been involved int he ones shown.

yeah it was in super, though tbh Vegito kicked major ass. Very good episode.

[Rolando Zolo]

cool i am a tad behind in super. but that sucks balls thats mortals are limited. it should be an absolute last resort for writers. thats why it was so good on buu and having his acid break the magic was a good twist. now that and kaoiken i win god mode are goign to get common.

its SSJ2 and SSj3 all over again if the don't cap the i win modes.

[Northwind_JME]

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also the fusion dance is a MAXIMUM of 30. once you add ssj3 energy drains its sub 10 mins as seen with gotenks and gogetta.

vegito is a more elegant fusion and like it or not is more powerful as it fully fuses their powers and abilities. the dance is a merge of strength into a new form hence the weird clothes as a side effect also. fusion from earrings>new being from dance easily.

Vegetto's clothes don't make sense ether. Vegeta isn't wearing blue any more.

His name doesn't make any sense in English, something that had bugged me for a long time.
I think it would have been better if they had not introduced a time limit but leave it up to the dragon to separate them.

[Boe WTF?!]

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ye and the fusion lasted also for 1 hour? no cause of SSB ~10 min so yeah that was a joke

you have to realize time in anime is different than time in rl, it probably lasted a good 40 minutes, but still split prematurely. they'd have been much more surprised if it only lasted 10 minutes

the whole episode was rushed so thats the result of that. and i do know thats not REAL LIFE time... (what is there to know :S)

[Apathy]

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Vegito is still stronger because Potaras let you ignore matching power levels. There's also no chance of a botched fusion.

they took a senzu before using the earrings tho, so if they were to fuse while weak it would have been a botched fusion...

Whereas the fusion dance took a beat up Goku and Vegeta and made the godly Gogeta.

No they took a Senzu bean before the fusion for a power increase. Near dead Saiyans gain a massive power boost by surviving. A Potara Fusion would have produced a completely healthy Vegito but he wouldn't have gotten the Zankai boost both Goku and Vegeta did.

You also don't know how Fusions work. I didn't mean that they were injured. Fusion Dance only works if the two fusing together have similar power levels. If one is stronger he has to supress his power down to match his partner. That makes the resulting fusion weaker than a Potara Fusion. Potara Fusion's only requirement is that each person wear an earring on opposite ears and touch. Both partners can be max power without worrying if they're too far ahead of each other.

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also the fusion dance is a MAXIMUM of 30. once you add ssj3 energy drains its sub 10 mins as seen with gotenks and gogetta.

vegito is a more elegant fusion and like it or not is more powerful as it fully fuses their powers and abilities. the dance is a merge of strength into a new form hence the weird clothes as a side effect also. fusion from earrings>new being from dance easily.

Vegetto's clothes don't make sense ether. Vegeta isn't wearing blue any more.

Fused Forms always have the one costume from when they're fused. Dance Fusions seem to only get the one universal costume. I don't see Vegito's fusion being in a different costume just because Vegeta wears a grey armor now.

[AGBK]

y'know if it were really so cut and dry as one over the other this debate wouldn't happen someone pointed me to http://www.kanzenshuu.com/ but it seems just as bad as any forum, anyone got references they can use to support their arguments?

Otherwise I think it's just not adequetly explored yet.

[GitGud]

You should know that Dragon Ball Super nothing different with GT. Garbage piece of ♥♥♥♥ ruined every good old things about Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. It's fun to watch it if you never read or heard about the old time and playing new shinning character. Seriously, first fight between Goku and Vegetta way cooler than when Red Goku vs Beerus.

[Rolando Zolo]

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also the fusion dance is a MAXIMUM of 30. once you add ssj3 energy drains its sub 10 mins as seen with gotenks and gogetta.

vegito is a more elegant fusion and like it or not is more powerful as it fully fuses their powers and abilities. the dance is a merge of strength into a new form hence the weird clothes as a side effect also. fusion from earrings>new being from dance easily.

Vegetto's clothes don't make sense ether. Vegeta isn't wearing blue any more.

His name doesn't make any sense in English, something that had bugged me for a long time.
I think it would have been better if they had not introduced a time limit but leave it up to the dragon to separate them.

true but vegito is using goku's gi just color flipped so its more closer to its source of fusion. and yeah both names sucked for fusion. i think was best they could think up on the fly.

as for seperating i like that magic can be broken but yeah USE THE DAMN DRAGON BALLS! its not like they are a key part of show or anything, NOT LIKE ITS NAMED FOR THE ITEM THATS NOT USED ANYMORE!
sorry bit ragey how often the balls are skipped for world domination vs originals