Beginner needs build help. Plz ?

[Mister B]

Hey people. Im pretty new to this kind of games , but im a pretty big fan so i figured i finaly give it a go.

Im going to make a male saiyan because obviously lol. But i heard you have to devide stats so i have no real clue how to best spread them. Also i havn't decided yet if i should go whit ki or strike supers. Both look amazing in this game : D so im realy on the rail.

But im planning to try and get into both pve and pvp eventualy so a few helpfull tips on how to build my character are more then welcome ^^

Thanks already people ^^

[abdera2020]

I really do suggest that you go full melee since there aren't much good Supers and Ultimates that could support you in the beginning.

Either go full 100 Basic Attacks quickly or 50 Basic Attacks then build up your Stamina, Stamina is your bread and butter so this one is very important.

Your target will be:

HP - 100 or 125 later on
KI - 0
Stamina - 100 or 125 later on
Basic ATK - 100 or 125 later on
Strike Supers - 0
Ki Blast Supers - 0

Well this is just a simple build of mine, it's up to you on how to distribute your stats. You could always use the Dragon Balls to reset your stats later on.

[Mister B]

oh. Will this realy work ? whitout putting points inti strike or ki suppers ? Would this work in pvp aswell afer i finish the story ?

[Caruzo]

Yeah, this is a standart Saiyan Melee PVP Build. U can use it after the story mode.
I prefer Strike Supers because of Justice Combination. So much DMG. Easy to hit and only need 3 KI bars :) If u wanna play with some style, Dragon Fist (TP Shop) is good too, but disabled in Tournaments. I get Stamina Ki and Strike Super from my QQ Bang too, so my points on lvl 86 at the moment:

HP - 51 (if i lvl up, all pints going here now)
KI - 0
Stamina - 44
Basic ATK - 125
Strike Supers - 125
Ki Blast Supers - 0

Every Build is playable, u need to know which Gamestyle u wanna play. Only Basic AA is to boring for me, so i put points into Strike Supers. But i have nothing XP on PVP, i cant say this working on PVP, but yeah, if u have to many Stamina and the enemy breaks u, u need a lot of time to refresh the stamina bar. That sucks for me.

Saiyan Race Male is good for AA and the Female is good for KI.
Best Super Strikes vave the Earthling and best KI Blast Supers Frieza. So take your choice ^^

[abdera2020]

I pretty much let my Transformation do the boost in damage wheather it's Strike or Ki Blast. To me, I find it pointless to put stats on it... well thats just me anyways.

[Jewbacca]

Depends on whether you want PVP, or PVE. I won't bother with PVP, because i don't do that since a long time. Too many cheaters back in the day, or maybe now too.

For PVE:

HP-0
Ki-125
Stamina-84
rest goes Ki Blast, and Basic ATK half-half.

QQ BANG made from Beerus's clothes -5 +5 +5 -5 -5 +5

Super Soul: Hmmmm hmmm or something with that name. You can get it from Buu's kids. If not available, then anything that gives some sort of health regen is great.

For Expert missions or raids:
Evasive move: Vanisher guard can be bought in skill shop. This is mandantory no excuses.
Super attack: Maximum Charge (obvious why) you can get through advancement quests from robot next to the Elder Kai
Super attack 2: rise to action Krillin's first move.
Super attack3: Do or Die (only needed if your super soul uses it.)
Ultimate: Soul Punisher. You need this to reflect giant KI blasts. otherwise it's worthless.
Ultimate 2: Supernova Cooler. Currently the best ultimate to hit someone hard who doesn't attack you.

For Parralel:
Super1:Fighting pose K
Super2: Do or Die, or Divinity Unleashed.
Others stuff is for what you want.

Here's some information about Fighting Pose K: To activate you need to throw away the enemy. Either with horizontal throw or vertical if you are in a high position. While active you are immune to stun effects, and stamina break. Even while using ultimate if fighting pose K active you cannot be stamina broken, and you loose health instead of stamina. BUT it has very short time so you need to lengthen it by using Do or Die or charge one ki bar with Divinity Unleashed.

Awoken: SSJ any except future SSJ, Golden form, or Potential Unleashed. I prefer the last one.

I warn you it's not difficult to counter Fighting Pose K in PVP so don't bother with it. Also it is considered as a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheesy move.

[Majin Mew]

Do you have access to DLC? If you do, Cabba's "I'll make you regret that!" Super Soul is the way to go for Story and PQ missions. While transformed, it will give you an XL boost to Basic Attack and and an M boost to Strike Supers on top of the bonus you get from your Super Saiyan/Vegeta Awoken skill.

QQ Bangs can go up to +15/-9 in stats, so try to get one of those (mix 2 pieces of different Lvl. 4 clothing + Senzu Beansprout for generally good results). + Stamina, + Basic Attack, + Supers are decent stats to go with... depending on your stamina (8+ bars), being a glass-cannon HP-wise doesn't really matter anymore.

For PvP, this is a different story and you will want a QQ Bang with +HP, + Basic, +Stamina.

For Expert Missions, different skillsets can be used. Generally speaking, Ki Blast Supers grow more and more important over the course of Expert Missions or you need a Poison skill.

You only need Vanisher Guard or a dedicated Pose K build in Raids sometimes... Expert Missions are a lot easier and mostly don't require that kind of specific builds.

Originally posted by Jewbacca:

Depends on whether you want PVP, or PVE. I won't bother with PVP, because i don't do that since a long time.

I warn you it's not difficult to counter Fighting Pose K in PVP so don't bother with it. Also it is considered as a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheesy move.

You still tried to cheese in PvP with said skills yesterday and you even ragequit when you lost xD
Btw. Supernova Cooler isn't worth the 5 bars of Ki in most (Expert) Missions; just like Soul Punisher isn't needed to push back Ki Blasts. There are cheaper / more efficient / better alternatives, depending on which Mission you play.

[Mister B]

hmm interesting opinions already. ill surely go and see what i can make from it. I realy can't decide wheter i like strike or ki blasts more at the moment. Everythings so pretty darn cool so ill try and make something as neutral as possible so that i can throw both in. and see how it goes from there.

Thanks already for everybody who replied. And should there be any more advice from people. don't hesitate to share ^^

[Demon Lord]

Im in agreement on the idea of using melee. Generally speaking the damage difference relative to your stats isnt as extreme as it was in the first game. I myself use maxed out basics/hp/stamina. And from there... i make presets that are either hybrid skill combinations... or focused ones that use ki blasts or strikes. Whatever works best for my cac. Since i use basics more than anything else... im not worried about where the other two are lowered

[abdera2020]

Or master how to use Full Power Energy Blast Volley. This baby is my favorite Ultimate since you can connect it at the end of a combo.

[Majin Mew]

125 Basic Attack, +5 Basic Attack on QQ Bang + Cabba's Soul will push your damage through the roof.... since Cabba's Soul gives a Strike Super boost anyway, you could balance that out and use both... or chose your transformation accordingly.

Super Vegeta 2 + Cabba's Soul + spread stats = balanced overall char with still insane basic attack damage... or SS3 + Cabba's Soul + KI Super stats = balanced as well.

[Mister B]

Im definatly going to try something like that out now. The onley thing im not sure about is wheter to put a lot of points in stamina or not ... people seem pretty torn up between having a lot of stamina to work whit ... but apparently it takes long time to recover ? Gona look that up before i decide ^^

[Draco25240]

Originally posted by Mister B:

Im definatly going to try something like that out now. The onley thing im not sure about is wheter to put a lot of points in stamina or not ... people seem pretty torn up between having a lot of stamina to work whit ... but apparently it takes long time to recover ? Gona look that up before i decide ^^

Yeah, if you get stamina-broken, it'll take some time to charge back up to full if you've got a lot of it, making you unable to vanish or dodge for quite some time... Of course, it's also bad to have too little stamina... They're a bit hard to balance indeed, but if you decide you have too much or too little later on, you can just use a Shenron wish to reset your points. It's 42 points for each stamina and ki bar btw, for a total of 3 bars in addition to the default 5.
Small tip though, during combat, try to stay on the ground as much as possible when your stamina starts to get low. Stamina charges way faster when you're on the ground than when you fly.

[abdera2020]

Having more Stamina means longer time to recover BUT it also means you can use your Z-Vanish and Evasive Skillas many as your Stamina can handle. Stamina Breaks will also turn you into a punching bag if you are not careful.

Here is what I did with my Female Majinn. I put 0 Stamina on her and I just let my QQ Bang handle the increase, also because of racial bonus of a female Majin just changing my Super Soul into a defensive one means I don't have to worry about becoming a punching bag during Stamina Breaks.

[Mister B]

alrighty for my male saiyan so far to start of trough story and then set myself up ill do this :
Max hp and max basic attack,
42 in both stamina and ki for 1 extra in there to be sure. Until i get those qq bang's and i can see how much i realy need.

Wich leaves 41 points remaining if my calculations are right for max level. I might eather put them in stamina but i don't want to be in stamina break verry long. seems verry painfull ... or devide them over the two super stats . That i don't know yet.

Still thanks everybody for all your advice : D the qqbangs and super souls ill see as i get on. But now i know what to look out for

[Jewbacca]

Originally posted by Majin Mew:

Do you have access to DLC? If you do, Cabba's "I'll make you regret that!" Super Soul is the way to go for Story and PQ missions. While transformed, it will give you an XL boost to Basic Attack and and an M boost to Strike Supers on top of the bonus you get from your Super Saiyan/Vegeta Awoken skill.

QQ Bangs can go up to +15/-9 in stats, so try to get one of those (mix 2 pieces of different Lvl. 4 clothing + Senzu Beansprout for generally good results). + Stamina, + Basic Attack, + Supers are decent stats to go with... depending on your stamina (8+ bars), being a glass-cannon HP-wise doesn't really matter anymore.

For PvP, this is a different story and you will want a QQ Bang with +HP, + Basic, +Stamina.

For Expert Missions, different skillsets can be used. Generally speaking, Ki Blast Supers grow more and more important over the course of Expert Missions or you need a Poison skill.

You only need Vanisher Guard or a dedicated Pose K build in Raids sometimes... Expert Missions are a lot easier and mostly don't require that kind of specific builds.

Originally posted by Jewbacca:

Depends on whether you want PVP, or PVE. I won't bother with PVP, because i don't do that since a long time.

I warn you it's not difficult to counter Fighting Pose K in PVP so don't bother with it. Also it is considered as a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheesy move.

You still tried to cheese in PvP with said skills yesterday and you even ragequit when you lost xD
Btw. Supernova Cooler isn't worth the 5 bars of Ki in most (Expert) Missions; just like Soul Punisher isn't needed to push back Ki Blasts. There are cheaper / more efficient / better alternatives, depending on which Mission you play.

Yea tried out that. It seems, that at least some people learned how to counter it. If you got a better idea to hit a moving boss in expert mission, then go for it. As for Soul Punisher it used to be the only way to push back giant ki blasts. Maybe it became easier or fixed since then. Strange how you remember knowing, that your TP suggest, that you play a lot PVP, and i'm just one of many.