Divine Lasso or Sword of Hope

[K1ng]

I'm a male saiyan (Got this game recently and I played xenoverse 1 so I know what I'm doing) and I was wondering which move would be better for me

[VaiMori]

well it comes down to what build you have, both of those ults are strike based. so if you have a strike based build the damage will be pretty good. even if you dont have a focus on strike supers they'll still do decent damage. sword of hope has it's own moveset when used *i think that's the ult that has that* divine lasso is Goku Black/Zamasu's ult, so it just looks badass. personally i'd use Divine lasso as i have a male saiyan strike build

[KingJacob44]

Both aren't that great, but If I had to make a decision between the two I would say Divine Lasso.

Divine Lasso
Pros:
Fast Startup.
Solid Tracking.
The opponent gets stunned, so they can't really move away without Z-vanishing or using an evasive.
Cons:
The big damage is dependant on the final attack which usually ends up being a dud every now and then. You'll get the first few attacks, but sometimes the opponent will just flat out fall out of the move.



Sword of Hope:
Pros:
Looks Cool.
Functions as it's own combos.
Does good damage.
Has no chance of being a dud unlike Divine Lasso.
Cons:
Has a really long starting up animation.
Will continously drain all of your KI.
You must use the swipe attack to get the most damage out of it, which will completely drain your KI.
Limited in range, basically requires full melee.



If your going to get either one of these, be sure to activate them(especially with sword of hope.) after your deliver a heavy stamina break to your opponent to get the most of the ultimate skills.

[SuitUpHewgz]

To add on top of that, I don't know how it works still, or if it still is broken, but Divine Lasso, even though it's classified as a strike ult, actually is a ki blast ult, as ki blast stat boosts its damage.

There have been a variety of theories, none of which I can confirm, that maybe the needle part is strike, but the ending explosion is ki blast, or what else.

Or if in pve or pvp its stats change based on that. Since I only do pve I can only say that in pve it's most boosted by ki blast.

[Kobi Blade]

I would go with Divine Lasso any day, Sword of Hope is horrible (awful ki per damage ratio).

Originally posted by SuitUpHewgz:

To add on top of that, I don't know how it works still, or if it still is broken, but Divine Lasso, even though it's classified as a strike ult, actually is a ki blast ult, as ki blast stat boosts its damage.

There have been a variety of theories, none of which I can confirm, that maybe the needle part is strike, but the ending explosion is ki blast, or what else.

Or if in pve or pvp its stats change based on that. Since I only do pve I can only say that in pve it's most boosted by ki blast.

Divine Lasso was confirmed to be bugged in OFFLINE mode ages ago, it works correctly in ONLINE mode (Strike based).

Unrelated to PVE or PVP.

[Battlefoxx]

Divine Lasso is 90% Ki Blast Damage despite the icon showing the Strike sign.
That being said, Divine Lasso requires less thinking, but may not always detonate at the end. It combos wonderfully out of any heavy knockdown.
Sword of Hope is gimmicky. If you use that during a Stamina Break, you have to be really quick about it. The damage then is subpar, but not exactly bad. If used outside of a Stamina Break, beware of grabs. You can try and bait them out though...

In short: Divine Lasso is probably gonna serve you better, unless you know how to handle Sword of Hope.

[SuitUpHewgz]

Originally posted by Kobi Blade:

I would go with Divine Lasso any day, Sword of Hope is horrible (awful ki per damage ratio).

Originally posted by SuitUpHewgz:

To add on top of that, I don't know how it works still, or if it still is broken, but Divine Lasso, even though it's classified as a strike ult, actually is a ki blast ult, as ki blast stat boosts its damage.

There have been a variety of theories, none of which I can confirm, that maybe the needle part is strike, but the ending explosion is ki blast, or what else.

Or if in pve or pvp its stats change based on that. Since I only do pve I can only say that in pve it's most boosted by ki blast.

Divine Lasso was confirmed to be bugged in OFFLINE mode ages ago, it works correctly in ONLINE mode (Strike based).

Unrelated to PVE or PVP.

Ah okay, now I know.

[K1ng]

I’m running a male Saiyan ki blast built so if sword is strike supers then I’m going for divine lasso.

[Kobi Blade]

Originally posted by Tiger 360:

I’m running a male Saiyan ki blast built so if sword is strike supers then I’m going for divine lasso.

Divine Lasso is strike super too, unless you play in offline mode (where is bugged and uses blast super).

It's fixed server side if you play online.

[K1ng]

Originally posted by Kobi Blade:

Originally posted by Tiger 360:

I’m running a male Saiyan ki blast built so if sword is strike supers then I’m going for divine lasso.

Divine Lasso is strike super too, unless you play in offline mode (where is bugged and uses blast super).

It's fixed server side if you play online.

OoF looks like I’m getting neither

[Battlefoxx]

Originally posted by Kobi Blade:

Originally posted by Tiger 360:

I’m running a male Saiyan ki blast built so if sword is strike supers then I’m going for divine lasso.

Divine Lasso is strike super too, unless you play in offline mode (where is bugged and uses blast super).

It's fixed server side if you play online.

Since when? It does less damage on my F Majin Striker than it does on my Ki Blast F Saiyan, regardless of Off- or Online.

[Kobi Blade]

Originally posted by Battlefoxx:

Originally posted by Kobi Blade:

Divine Lasso is strike super too, unless you play in offline mode (where is bugged and uses blast super).

It's fixed server side if you play online.

Since when? It does less damage on my F Majin Striker than it does on my Ki Blast F Saiyan, regardless of Off- or Online.

Since ever, this was already heavily tested and proven years ago. Feel free to use the search function of the Forum to find the discussions.

[Battlefoxx]

Originally posted by Kobi Blade:

Originally posted by Battlefoxx:

Since when? It does less damage on my F Majin Striker than it does on my Ki Blast F Saiyan, regardless of Off- or Online.

Since ever, this was already heavily tested and proven years ago. Feel free to use the search function of the Forum to find the discussions.

...ok, I see some videos talking about it. Was about to test it myself, but that is... interesting to know. Then again, those videos were about a year ago. Do you have a more recent video somewhere (feel free to just add me and send it that way)?

[Shadowdrake]

Testing, results were slightly inconclusive. Seems that Divine Lasso either scales off of both strike and ki super or only off of ki super for the explosion. Test results:

Test #1 SSGSS Strike Based Saiyan 125 strike super (0 ki blast)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1633536586


Test #2 Golden Frieza Ki Based Frieza Race 125 ki blast super (0 strike)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1633536546

The final conclusion is that divine lasso is more effective on ki blast builds as it is ranged which matches ki blast playstyle as well as does more damage on a ki blast character.

[Takii]

Originally posted by KingJacob44:

Both aren't that great, but If I had to make a decision between the two I would say Divine Lasso.

Divine Lasso
Pros:
Fast Startup.
Solid Tracking.
The opponent gets stunned, so they can't really move away without Z-vanishing or using an evasive.
Cons:
The big damage is dependant on the final attack which usually ends up being a dud every now and then. You'll get the first few attacks, but sometimes the opponent will just flat out fall out of the move.



Sword of Hope:
Pros:
Looks Cool.
Functions as it's own combos.
Does good damage.
Has no chance of being a dud unlike Divine Lasso.
Cons:
Has a really long starting up animation.
Will continously drain all of your KI.
You must use the swipe attack to get the most damage out of it, which will completely drain your KI.
Limited in range, basically requires full melee.



If your going to get either one of these, be sure to activate them(especially with sword of hope.) after your deliver a heavy stamina break to your opponent to get the most of the ultimate skills.

Agreed, sword of hope while powerful is extremely flawed because your basically only going to get so many attacks off, if you do the strongest attack with it thats basically all your going to do before you completely run out of KI, the only way to maximize this would be to put 125 in KI but even then its not worth it in my opinion. Divine lasso is def better, even though it has its flaws as well, but what attack in this game is perfect? Sure as hell aint perfect shot or perfect kamehameha i can tell you that.

[Takii]

Originally posted by Shadowdrake:

Testing, results were slightly inconclusive. Seems that Divine Lasso either scales off of both strike and ki super or only off of ki super for the explosion. Test results:

Test #1 SSGSS Strike Based Saiyan 125 strike super (0 ki blast)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1633536586


Test #2 Golden Frieza Ki Based Frieza Race 125 ki blast super (0 strike)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1633536586


The final conclusion is that divine lasso is more effective on ki blast builds as it is ranged which matches ki blast playstyle as well as does more damage on a ki blast character.

Yeah but divine lasso isnt a KI blast based abilitiy. From my experience i do more damage with it as a melee than i ever do as KI blast user, and ive got 125 in KI blast skill.